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Old 05-10-2005, 07:12 AM
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Default I drove an A3 yesterday

It was the base model 2.0T with the 6spd for $25k. I like the car overall, but for the price of one with options, I'd rather spend a little more and get and A4. The lack of quattro is also not very appealing to me.
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Default It's pretty relative...

A3 with options will cost close to an A4 without options.

A3 2.0T MT6 Frontrack with no options - $25,460
A3 2.0T MT6 with Sport Package - $27,260
A3 2.0T MT6 with Premium Package - $27,845

Compared to...
A4 2.0T MT6 Frontrack with no options - $28,070
A4 2.0T MT6 QTR with no options - $30,170
A4 2.0T MT6 Avant QTR with no options - $31,170

Just trying to keep things in perspective. If you built an A4 with options, the difference is greater than some people think it is. Of course, there may be deals to be had with the A4 as opposed to no deals on the A3, so that should also go into consideration.

The obvious difference is the availability of QTR in the A4. And when the A3 with QTR arrives, it will be priced higher than the Frontrak A3's, most likely in the mid $27K range if they follow their pricing model for the A4 ($2100 more to get QTR).

Of course, this is all moot to me since I wanted a DSG, which isn't available on the A4.
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Default Price comparison

Has anyone priced a Mini? I believe that an A3 is a lot more car for the money than a Mini. Yet the prices are similar...just an observation...
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Default Agreed. Cooper S goes on average for around $27K with some options.

Much smaller car. Fine if that is all the room you need, but I've had two friends buy them, and then buy another vehicle for hauling anything any distance - including more than one passenger.
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Default Oddly enough, I was seriously looking at the Mini many months ago.

Their website is pretty good when configuring cars. Obviously, the Mini Cooper S would be the one to compare the A3 to.

I had priced a Mini Cooper S loaded with stuff:
Navigation, Xenons, Sport Pkg, R99 17" wheels, etc. MSRP was $24,901.

If you go for the JCW package, then that's another $4775 (not available in automatic), but it brings it up to 207hp.

Overall, the Mini is cheaper, but again, keep it in perspective. It's much smaller, two doors, interior is not close to Audi standards, and the cars are basically not readily available. I was told that it was 12 to 18 months to wait for a car.

On the plus side, that 6-speed Cooper S was a blast to drive. Much more sporty feel than the A3. Suspension is definitely tuned to lively driving. It also has 3yr/30,000 mile maintenance similar to Audi Advantage (no rental car, though).

If you were on a tighter budget and had to have the gizmos in a fun car to drive, the Mini Cooper S is definitely worth considering. A loaded Mini is priced close to a no-frills A3.
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or spend 500 on a pulley and filter and get the same hp as the jcw stuff
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There you go. 207hp in a loaded Mini Cooper S for $25K.
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much smaller car and it's appeal has worn off for me
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Default good point

You can potentially get more for your money with the A3.
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Default Zactly.

Doing the pricing game just makes it obvious that the A3 is cheaper and you can get more for the money if you are comparing as close to apples to apples as you can.

Of course, if you just have to have QTR, your only choice today is the A4.

But conversely, if you just have to have DSG (like I did), your only choice is the A3 (no TT for me).


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