Thinking of getting a drop...
01-24-2007, 06:56 PM
#15
I just get fed up with the advertister's reign around here, that is all.
The statements you make are slanted towards having a person believe that buying anything but the product you are selling is inferior. Your statement that in order to properly tune your car that you must have coil overs.... and then you cut right to adjusting the coil overs to get the right height. That's visual only buddy, and actually has little to do with "tuning" your cars suspension. And your additional statements of the coil overs that will truly eliminate body roll and understeer is also a bunch of hype. A roll bar is far more effective at this, and oh, it's also a fraction of the cost.
I would also be willing to bet that I've been more of a resource to the community over the past eight years than any of your sales-slanted post will ever be. And before you go off accusing me of being a young punk *** know-nothing, I'll kindly inform you that my background includes racing, custom design and fabrication of forumla sae cars, and a masters in mechanical engineering.
I would also be willing to bet that I've been more of a resource to the community over the past eight years than any of your sales-slanted post will ever be. And before you go off accusing me of being a young punk *** know-nothing, I'll kindly inform you that my background includes racing, custom design and fabrication of forumla sae cars, and a masters in mechanical engineering.
02-04-2007, 12:56 PM
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Here you go:
We have developed the only publicly available off-the-shelf race suspension for the B5 Quattro platform. It us based on an inverted Penske 7500 shocks. Cars equipped with this setup consistently outperform anything else on the track. Here is Pat's car prepared for NASA racing with Penskes (Pat is a co developer and a friend):
<img src="http://startupracing.phanfare.com/show/external/194376/252226/11413657/file.jpg">
and
<img src="http://startupracing.phanfare.com/show/external/194376/252226/11413690/file.jpg">
But that is not my car. My car has not been built to any racing class, rather for track events and schools. It is still quite fun:
<img src="http://startupracing.phanfare.com/show/external/178303/228748/10436258/file.jpg">
<img src="http://www.startupracing.com/images/Gallery/S4/MKS_5726s.JPG">
Here are the Penskes:
<img src="http://www.startupracing.com/images/Gallery/SuspensionKits/IMG_6569_Small.JPG">
Of course a handful of customers run these on their track prepared cars.
I also have a SPA Dyno that allows me to perform suspension research, for example check out this article about PSS9s:
https://forums.audiworld.com/suspension/msgs/1121.phtml
Finally I have a street car and numerous customers with street cars. What you need on the street is different from what is needed at the track. Therefore we have worked with Vogtland to bring few interesting offerings into US.
Our street tuning philosophy is simple:
Stiff springs, stiffer rears, small rollbars, and soft shocks for compliant ride. Others have different approaches, and the stiff roll bar discussions are all over the internet. I do not like them (VERY big roll bars) as they negate the fact that our cars have independent suspensions.
I definitely know more about Audi suspensions that 95% of people on AW. This would have been easy for you to research before posting.
<img src="http://startupracing.phanfare.com/show/external/194376/252226/11413657/file.jpg">
and
<img src="http://startupracing.phanfare.com/show/external/194376/252226/11413690/file.jpg">
But that is not my car. My car has not been built to any racing class, rather for track events and schools. It is still quite fun:
<img src="http://startupracing.phanfare.com/show/external/178303/228748/10436258/file.jpg">
<img src="http://www.startupracing.com/images/Gallery/S4/MKS_5726s.JPG">
Here are the Penskes:
<img src="http://www.startupracing.com/images/Gallery/SuspensionKits/IMG_6569_Small.JPG">
Of course a handful of customers run these on their track prepared cars.
I also have a SPA Dyno that allows me to perform suspension research, for example check out this article about PSS9s:
https://forums.audiworld.com/suspension/msgs/1121.phtml
Finally I have a street car and numerous customers with street cars. What you need on the street is different from what is needed at the track. Therefore we have worked with Vogtland to bring few interesting offerings into US.
Our street tuning philosophy is simple:
Stiff springs, stiffer rears, small rollbars, and soft shocks for compliant ride. Others have different approaches, and the stiff roll bar discussions are all over the internet. I do not like them (VERY big roll bars) as they negate the fact that our cars have independent suspensions.
I definitely know more about Audi suspensions that 95% of people on AW. This would have been easy for you to research before posting.
02-04-2007, 06:00 PM
#20
Gotcha.
Thanks for taking the time to explain your background. At first glance from your original reply it honestly appeared to be very slanted towards just trying to pawn off a product on a potential customer. I've seen this from too many clowns over the years, it's unfortunate when people are just out to make a quick buck and will sell crap prodcuts/service in order to do so.