now that the 2010 A5 is cheaper, will everyone have one?
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#24
The numbers I posted are correct. Audi wants to change them.
That's why they are offering the 2.0T engine in the A5. Because more people will buy them.
I understand that that is exactly why you do not want an A5 2.0T here in the US market.
But your reasoning is self defeating.
The more cars AoA can sell at a small profit in the US, the more future offerings AoA can bring to the US.
The less cars AoA can sell at a small profit in the US, the less future offerings AoA can bring to the US.
That's why they are offering the 2.0T engine in the A5. Because more people will buy them.
I understand that that is exactly why you do not want an A5 2.0T here in the US market.
But your reasoning is self defeating.
The more cars AoA can sell at a small profit in the US, the more future offerings AoA can bring to the US.
The less cars AoA can sell at a small profit in the US, the less future offerings AoA can bring to the US.
Since, we are extremely consumption driven, it's not about the best product, it's about what someone can sell you. The 2.0t is coming for many reasons, the US is a mass market area, feul prices are increasing, and so forth ...
Audi has been bringing great cars for sometime without needing to resort to BMW attitude of let's put 1 on every corner. And I think it's a winning formula quality cars, ain't decent prices, I personally would rather pay more for quality and higher services, then get the cheapest deal, because I believe you pay for what you get, and if I can't afford what I want, then I just want have anything until I can do so, that doesn't mean I need a cheaper version.
Part of the allure of the 5, is because, it was 1 a step of the A4, and also , it played it's part, it looked powerful, and they ensured looks weren't deceiving by introducing the S5. Just other day, valet, parking my car get's out and says great engine, and the 4.2 is a great engine, sounds great, solid, fits the car. The 2.0t is a great engine as well, just I think it takes something away from the 5, and shouldn't be in the llineup for this car, my opinion, I personally would have 3.0tfsi 300+, 4.2 v8 (up the power to 380-400), and 4.0tfsi 480+HP for RS5, and charge a little more for the cars, that's just me and what I would do. I'm not of the mind that selling more means that your a great company, I mean is Patek-Phillipe not a great company because they don't offer $500 watches? Of course, it's a silly analogy as PP is akin to the Bhugatti of the watch world, but my point is more should nto be definining factor of success. It's what downed BMW in my mind, it was Audi's , neccessity to build great cars, to get back in the market in the US, and if they abandon that in order to "sell more cars" simply, they'll lose something. The 2.0t in the 5 shouldn't be in the US, atleast not yet, and certainly not at it's power input, and certainly not for the name that Audi has been trying to make for itself.
#25
oops, didn't know why I kept thinking you're from CA. I thought I saw it somewhere. Anyways, the prob is still there. There are so many 3 coupes out on the road, many of them switch their car every year or two. If BMW does not work their *** off within a year or two to get the 3 looks better, those will be future A5/S5 owners for sure. I'm against it if you decided to purchase the A5 b/c it's rare. Go for the look, the options, reliability... whatever as you like, just don't ever jump on it because it's rare. You will want to sell it before you know it.
#26
Again, this is the American attitude of production, more is not neccessarily a better thing. Your numbers are correct, but again, exclude the US , and BMW , Mercedes, are no greater in terms of car sales, it's their sales here that surpass Audi, not Europe or even Asia, and again, even perception of Audi as stated much higher in Europe and China, and Audi #1 in China, but I've always believed American consumers aren't neccessarily the brightest.
Since, we are extremely consumption driven, it's not about the best product, it's about what someone can sell you. The 2.0t is coming for many reasons, the US is a mass market area, feul prices are increasing, and so forth ...
Audi has been bringing great cars for sometime without needing to resort to BMW attitude of let's put 1 on every corner. And I think it's a winning formula quality cars, ain't decent prices, I personally would rather pay more for quality and higher services, then get the cheapest deal, because I believe you pay for what you get, and if I can't afford what I want, then I just want have anything until I can do so, that doesn't mean I need a cheaper version.
Part of the allure of the 5, is because, it was 1 a step of the A4, and also , it played it's part, it looked powerful, and they ensured looks weren't deceiving by introducing the S5. Just other day, valet, parking my car get's out and says great engine, and the 4.2 is a great engine, sounds great, solid, fits the car. The 2.0t is a great engine as well, just I think it takes something away from the 5, and shouldn't be in the llineup for this car, my opinion, I personally would have 3.0tfsi 300+, 4.2 v8 (up the power to 380-400), and 4.0tfsi 480+HP for RS5, and charge a little more for the cars, that's just me and what I would do. I'm not of the mind that selling more means that your a great company, I mean is Patek-Phillipe not a great company because they don't offer $500 watches? Of course, it's a silly analogy as PP is akin to the Bhugatti of the watch world, but my point is more should nto be definining factor of success. It's what downed BMW in my mind, it was Audi's , neccessity to build great cars, to get back in the market in the US, and if they abandon that in order to "sell more cars" simply, they'll lose something. The 2.0t in the 5 shouldn't be in the US, atleast not yet, and certainly not at it's power input, and certainly not for the name that Audi has been trying to make for itself.
Since, we are extremely consumption driven, it's not about the best product, it's about what someone can sell you. The 2.0t is coming for many reasons, the US is a mass market area, feul prices are increasing, and so forth ...
Audi has been bringing great cars for sometime without needing to resort to BMW attitude of let's put 1 on every corner. And I think it's a winning formula quality cars, ain't decent prices, I personally would rather pay more for quality and higher services, then get the cheapest deal, because I believe you pay for what you get, and if I can't afford what I want, then I just want have anything until I can do so, that doesn't mean I need a cheaper version.
Part of the allure of the 5, is because, it was 1 a step of the A4, and also , it played it's part, it looked powerful, and they ensured looks weren't deceiving by introducing the S5. Just other day, valet, parking my car get's out and says great engine, and the 4.2 is a great engine, sounds great, solid, fits the car. The 2.0t is a great engine as well, just I think it takes something away from the 5, and shouldn't be in the llineup for this car, my opinion, I personally would have 3.0tfsi 300+, 4.2 v8 (up the power to 380-400), and 4.0tfsi 480+HP for RS5, and charge a little more for the cars, that's just me and what I would do. I'm not of the mind that selling more means that your a great company, I mean is Patek-Phillipe not a great company because they don't offer $500 watches? Of course, it's a silly analogy as PP is akin to the Bhugatti of the watch world, but my point is more should nto be definining factor of success. It's what downed BMW in my mind, it was Audi's , neccessity to build great cars, to get back in the market in the US, and if they abandon that in order to "sell more cars" simply, they'll lose something. The 2.0t in the 5 shouldn't be in the US, atleast not yet, and certainly not at it's power input, and certainly not for the name that Audi has been trying to make for itself.
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I'm from Asia and as I know, Audi sold many there because of the fact that they're considered to be the most competitive in pricing in part of the biggest 3 luxury brands (Merc, BMW, and Audi). You won't get much "respect" ,as they say, in Asia unless you're driving either BMW or Merc (just look at how the Asian in America act, they buy Merc or BMW to show off their social status). Also, it totally understandable for Audi to surpass BMW and Merc in EU. It's freaken freezing over there. Audi is an obvious choice. Anyways, back to THE conclusion, Audi is relatively a very small but Successful company.
And again, I didn't just by 5 because I thought it was rarer, which it definitely is , and I hope it stays that way, but I started liking Audi to begin with because in general they were rarer. I purchased my firest Audi in 2001 an A4, because, it was far less rare than either the 3-series or Merc C, of which I both looked at, and the rarity in fact was why I got it, or played a part.