anachronist

maybe i have an audi fetish (eventhough i dont own one), but the looks are just pole aparts. i would take a perf hit, and go by the looks.

ayecarumba

I wouldn't trade my S5 for any Cadillac regardless of its power. CTS-V exterior is like a mix of a citroen-volvo combo from the 70's, it has a cheap interior and is ergonomicaly cramped, not to mention its handling challenged attitude.

S5 is a far better car, I've squeezed the juice out of my car several times and even gone 162mph and sticks to the road like glue, I doubt the CTS-V handles that well. That CTS looks like it would get off the ground at 130mph mark and just take off.

US atuomakers feel that putting a big-block engine in their vehicles will resurrect sales and attract attention, consumers however, are getting awared of what's good and what's not so good anymore. Most of this overpowered vehicles rarely make a difference.

Let's not under-estimate our vehicles based on a 0-60 mark. But for those who feel threatened... RS5 will come one day and surprise us all, I mean.. 125mph in 10sec is no joke!

ROCBOY

+1

US automakers need to make their point when they feel the heat so they take a vehicle, put a 'HEMI' on it and blast the competence for a day or two! once they make their point they go and die for another couple of years or so and just like everything else they've tried to accomplish in the past... and life goes on.

US Automakers just like military and politics.. they just can't take death or being 2nd or 3rd very well so they go and bomb or sanction some country just to keep in shape or make believed, or simply pump their athletes on steroids to get gold medals and keep things under wrap.

The CTX-V is just another disaster waiting to happen. If any German or Japanese Automaker hasn't come up with such atrocity yet there has to be reason. I am sure they got the technology to jump up anytime and make a kill but it's just not feasible or perhaps reliable in today's economy.

A8Liter

Just for the record- the CTS-V has a supercharged small block which pumps out 556hp. As far as handling goes it was developed specifically on the internationally acclaimed Nurburgring. In fact, it is currently the fasted production sedan in the world, and if you look at my listing below you can see that it has come darn close or even beat some serious sports cars(including the Audi R8!)

7:52 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2008),[34] apparently problems with tires and ABS
7:54 Mercedes CLK DTM AMG Sport Auto (03/2005)
7:54 Nissan GT-R September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[18] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:54 Porsche 911 Turbo 997 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (05/2007)[35]
7:55 Caterham R500 Superlight Robert Nearn 'EVO' magazine (07/2000)
7:55 Ferrari F430 F1 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2006)
7:55.9 Nissan GT-R Chris Harris November 2008 Drivers Republic[32]
7:56 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 Dave Hill crossedflags.com[36]
7:56 Porsche 911 Turbo Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2000)
7:56 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale f1 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (02/2004), Sport tires[citation needed]
7:59 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51 Dave Hill General Motors conducted test[citation needed]
7:59 Cadillac CTS-V (2009) John Heinricy 9 May 2008 General Motors conducted test,[37] video confirmed[38]
7:59 Porsche 911 Carrera S Walter Röhrl 'Wheels' magazine (06/2004), PASM setting "Performance"[citation needed]
7:59 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 V-Spec Dirk Schoysman 1996 Best Motoring - Time Attack / Autocar magazine 97, stock[citation needed][39]
7:59 Dodge Viper SRT-10 November 2005 Motor Trend[citation needed]
8:01 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series, Prototype (weight/horsepower different from production car)[citation needed]
8:02 Mercedes CLK 63 AMG - Black Series Autobild (07/2007)
8:02 Aston Martin DBS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto [40]
8:03 Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2005) Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (10/2005)
8:03 Porsche 911 GT3 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/1999)
8:03 Honda NSX-R (NA1) Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring (02/2006), Omit the safe equipment model: No Airbags, No ESC, No Spare tire[citation needed]
8:04 Audi R8 Sport Auto (07/2007)[41]
8:05 BMW M3 E92 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2007)[42]
8:06 Subaru WRX STi Spec-C Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video 'NISMO Beast Unleashed'[43]
8:07 BMW Z8 E52 Autobild (06/2001)
8:09 Audi RS4 Sport Auto (06/2006)
8:09 BMW M6 E63 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2005), Sport tires, 259 km/h speed limiter.[citation needed]
8:09 Honda NSX-R Sport Auto (08/2002), Sport tires, suspension modification.[citation needed]
8:10 Porsche Boxster S www.sueddeutsche.de/automobil/372/449102/text/11


And for the US car hater on this board(you know who you are) that thinks anything in America can't handle worth sh*t you should know that the current true production car record holder is the Dodge Viper ACR. Look what it beats! Time to pack it in already.

20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:22.1 Dodge Viper ACR (2009) Tom Coronel 18 August 2008 Chrysler conducted test,[8] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, |title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:24.3 Maserati MC12 Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:24.7 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:25.3 Ferrari Enzo Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:26.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009) Jim Mero 27 June 2008 General Motors conducted test,[9] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:26.70 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 23 April 2009 Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[10]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng September 2007 Pagani conducted test,[11][12] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:28.71 Porsche Carrera GT Walter Röhrl 2 July 2004 Autobild (07/04) [12]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:29.03 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 17 April 2008 Nissan Motors conducted test,[13][14][15]. The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:32.02 Porsche 911 GT2 (2008) Walter Röhrl 2007 Porsche conducted test,[16] R compound tires used.[citation needed]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:33.6 Koenigsegg CCX Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Koenigsegg CCR Horst von Saurma 17 October 2005 Sport Auto (03/2006)[17]
7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[18] stock vehicle with stock tires
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:35 Ruf Rt 12 Sport Auto (02/2008)[19]
7:38 Porsche 911 Turbo September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[18] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:38 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 Horst von Saurma October 2009 Sport Auto "super test"[20]
7:38 Nissan GT-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2009),[21] Dunlop tires
7:39 Porsche 911 Turbo (2010) Porsche Conducted Test [22] Stock vehicle with stock tires
7:39 Ferrari 430 Scuderia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2008)[23]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Giorgio Sanna Lamborghini Autobild (01/2007)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 'Wheels' magazine (12/2005)[citation needed]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Klaus Ludwig AutoBild (07/2004)[citation needed]
7:40 Porsche 911 GT3 997MkII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2009)[24]
7:40.6 Ford GT Markus Draper Octane Magazine[citation needed]

ayecarumba

WOW!!

ChEB

The SRT-8s are defiantly something special. The stock motors are powerful and there is so much more potential that is easily accessible without risking the motor itself. But I just find myself getting very picky over details and interior components. If i wasn't so picky on those items (and if i could get it to handle like it was on rails) you'd find me in a Challenger SRT-8.

Anyway the RS5 and the CTS-V coupe are the cars that are in my sights but at the current time the S5 owners are the only ones I’d be getting feedback from till the others hit the streets.

I'm currently in the Indonesia area so I probably won't come across many CTS-V until I return home later this year. Trying to buy the ideal car in a three month window before i have to travel again is a PITA but thanks

Q

That would be me. Would take a used Audi over a new gm, ford, chrysler...take your pick, any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Trust me, hell hasn't frozen over yet.

ayecarumba

exactly!

ChEB

thats great, for the both of you.

Q

Maybe when the US automakers SET the standard instead of trying to play "catch-up"...then again by then we'll probably be piloting flying cars a'la The Jetson's