Michelin or Continental
09-29-2018, 11:28 AM
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Michelin or Continental
Trying to get all season tires but can't decide between Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ or Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06.
Got the Cavo wheels 19". Is there any better choice other than the two?
Got the Cavo wheels 19". Is there any better choice other than the two?
09-29-2018, 01:53 PM
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I have had both (on SAAB 9-3s). My opinion is the Michelin PS A/S 3+ for performance, especially dry, but also wet. No snow driving recently in Arizona.
I had the DWS 06 probably 5-6 years ago. Ran good in wet, supposed to be good in snow. I seem to recall they got noisy at some point.
I suggest reading Tire Rack road tests and even customer reviews.
But if you get more than a few inches of snow a year I too suggest snow tires on a separate set of wheels, -1 setup (18 inch)
I had the DWS 06 probably 5-6 years ago. Ran good in wet, supposed to be good in snow. I seem to recall they got noisy at some point.
I suggest reading Tire Rack road tests and even customer reviews.
But if you get more than a few inches of snow a year I too suggest snow tires on a separate set of wheels, -1 setup (18 inch)
09-29-2018, 03:00 PM
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Depends where you are located...you can't go wrong with either if you do not intend to use dedicated snow tires.
Both achieved good marks by both Consumer Reports and Tire Rack testing....not gospels, but perhaps the most objective. Updated Consumer Report test in this months issue, which just hit the stands. So, if interested in a tire other than one of these, start with those sources.
There are plenty of anecdotals regarding both tire in this forum. I have had and currently have the DWS 06 on 19", and predecessor DWS - does a decent job in snowy, icy Cleveland weather. Have run Michelins (but not this newer model), but they were all lousy when near icy (actually, only a dedicated winter tire is good for ice)...some of the independent tire shops in my area will sway people away from the Michelins for this reason. (this anecdotal re icy handling is contrary to objective reports, so go figure.)
My two cents.
Both achieved good marks by both Consumer Reports and Tire Rack testing....not gospels, but perhaps the most objective. Updated Consumer Report test in this months issue, which just hit the stands. So, if interested in a tire other than one of these, start with those sources.
There are plenty of anecdotals regarding both tire in this forum. I have had and currently have the DWS 06 on 19", and predecessor DWS - does a decent job in snowy, icy Cleveland weather. Have run Michelins (but not this newer model), but they were all lousy when near icy (actually, only a dedicated winter tire is good for ice)...some of the independent tire shops in my area will sway people away from the Michelins for this reason. (this anecdotal re icy handling is contrary to objective reports, so go figure.)
My two cents.
09-29-2018, 04:21 PM
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All season tires are never an even close approximation of dedicated winter tires. They stay "soft" at freezing temps, have a more aggressive tread and hydrophyllic compounds in the rubber.
If one lives in the snow belt and are going to keep a car for 4-6 years get snow tires and -1 wheels.
Since you are not using your other 3 season tires when using the snow tires the only real expense is an extra set of wheels. Hunt for some older version OEM alloys that fit
when I lived in Chicago and Indiana I had snow tires from early '70s thru 2008
If one lives in the snow belt and are going to keep a car for 4-6 years get snow tires and -1 wheels.
Since you are not using your other 3 season tires when using the snow tires the only real expense is an extra set of wheels. Hunt for some older version OEM alloys that fit
when I lived in Chicago and Indiana I had snow tires from early '70s thru 2008
Last edited by Wildcat UA; 09-29-2018 at 04:30 PM.
09-29-2018, 05:49 PM
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If you have 19” wheels for your Summer tires go with an 18” wheel for your snow tires. At least that’s my plan.
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09-29-2018, 05:51 PM
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-1 means if your standard wheel is 19" you go with a 18" wheel with a narrower tire that maintains the same overall diameter within 2-3%.
https://tiresize.com/chart/
Going with a narrower tire limits "snowplowing" and puts more weight per square inch on the contact patch. Snowplowing is the buildup of snow in front of a tire, a narrow tire allows less buildup of snow
https://tiresize.com/chart/
Going with a narrower tire limits "snowplowing" and puts more weight per square inch on the contact patch. Snowplowing is the buildup of snow in front of a tire, a narrow tire allows less buildup of snow
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09-29-2018, 06:47 PM
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-1 means if your standard wheel is 19" you go with a 18" wheel with a narrower tire that maintains the same overall diameter within 2-3%.
https://tiresize.com/chart/
Going with a narrower tire limits "snowplowing" and puts more weight per square inch on the contact patch. Snowplowing is the buildup of snow in front of a tire, a narrow tire allows less buildup of snow
https://tiresize.com/chart/
Going with a narrower tire limits "snowplowing" and puts more weight per square inch on the contact patch. Snowplowing is the buildup of snow in front of a tire, a narrow tire allows less buildup of snow
Not sure the size of the contact patch changes, or the amount of weight per square inch, that's going to be determined by the air pressure in your tires, not the width of the tread. Tread width will however impact the SHAPE of the contact patch with a narrow tread creating a narrower but longer contact patch. And that will help prevent the snowplowing like you said.