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Old 04-15-2008, 05:17 AM
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Default to beat a dead horse, my final question on this topic

Sorry, but I believe in very thorough research and I can't make a decision without the brain trust here.

This only got one hit on the wheel and tire forum:

I am deciding between two wheels, both are same style, RS6 replica wheels

wheel 1 -- 18x8.5 et 30 -- I'd need to run spacers and longer bolts.

wheel 2 -- 18x7.5 et 20 -- direct bolt on and can use factory lugs.

This car will never see a track. It is a family hauler with a spirited driver and it is equipped with H-sports (hard) which firm up the ride quite a bit.

is the 1" difference in width worth dealing with spacers and longer bolts? pros and cons of the wider wheel (wheel bearings)?

and final stupid noob question -- I assume the contact patch on a 245/45/18 is the same regardless of wheel width?
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Default 6 or 7 Years permanently on spacers for summer and winter wheels, never had an issue, ever. All it

comes down to what wheel you really like. The 10mm spacers should not be a hold up, just ensure they are hub-centric and torqued correctly but that's about it.

Well, a 245 is a 245 so your contact patch will only increase or decrease with the amount of air you put in the tire. And because it is a daily driver you might want to shoot for a medium to high sidewall for ride quality.

Just remember to re-torque them after the first 500 miles ;-)
Good Luck and let's see some pics please when you get them.
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Default I'd go with which ever wheel you like better

the 1" width difference will make a difference in the shape of the sidewall which will have a minimal impact on performance. That said you'll be happy either way. spacers - especially ones as small as 10mm shouldnt be a concern either. just go with whichever wheel you like better.
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Default A 245 series tire isn't perfect on a 7.5" rim, but it'll work.

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I prefer not to run spacers, but if they're good ones, you shouldn't have problems. I've been eyeballing those RS6 reps at Hartmann with the 20et, even though they are 7.5" wide. One of the experts who sells the wheels just told me last week that he advises against running a 245 tire on a 7.5" rim, but the 1/2" difference seems negligible. On a track car, sure. On a street car? Doubt it. I know for a fact that some Ford Mustangs came from the factory with 245s on 7.5" wheels (albiet 17s).

I have these Mille Miglias that are 18x8 et 20, but I'm not in love with them. They cost me nothing, but I really like the looks of the RS6 wheels much, much more. I wonder what they're worth?
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Default Discount tire told me same thing

But I think the OEM 18" hollow spoke wheels are 7.5 and run a 245/45/18 tire.

Agreed, I would never use that on a track, but on a family hauler I don't think there is any safety issue, but I always welcome the opinion from the tire guru's
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Default Id go with wheel 2 simply because of the financial aspect...

cheaper tires, no spacers.Or if I'm reading it right and your planning on using the same size tire it will look better on the smaller rim, plus the rim will be more protected from curb rash and potholes.
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Default If the tire manufacturer has the rim size listed in their specs it is fine to run anywhere. I would

take their opinion tenfold over any of the so called tire gurus on the internet or at retailers.

I mean seriously the tire manufacturers actually test their tires before suggesting the rims size spread they supply. The guy at discount tires is just spouting his theorectial opinion based on some bullsh!t he read somewhere with no testing experience except for how fast he takes the corner entering the drivethru at McDonalds.
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Default Have you ever looked at the height of the sidewall on tires in Formula 1 or NASCAR?

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I guess maybe there is a spec in the rules that the sidewall has to be big so people can read the advertising.

I know you were talking about rim width and I am somewhat of topic, but I don't think 1 inch rim width makes any difference at all in performance.
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Default ha haa -- thanks for this, turns out OEM spec on the 18x7.5 is 245/24/18

so if it's good enough for Audi, good enough for me.

my only concern was ride quality -- did not want it to be too harsh. The allroad with h-sports on 17's with snows on corners just fine.

I ended up getting 18" RS6 replicas with the proper offset.
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Be careful, those 245/24/18 tires are hard to find...
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