Ex-PzKW Cdr. ZF5HP19FLA question for you:
#1
Ex-PzKW Cdr. ZF5HP19FLA question for you:
Who do you use to rebuild AR Tip trannies? After the replacement of my last one I have the busted core, and was going to send it to L10. Having read your reply to a post below regarding ZF rebuilds and L10's self-professed 'attention' to detail, now I'm not so sure. I'd value your insights on this. Thanks!
#5
A bad MAF sensor is not always report errors, especially for a dirty one or a non-linear one.
Several friends' AT with non-smooth shifting (clunking when shifting) or slipping clutchs (fault codes of incorrect gear ratio) were caused by the bad MAF sensor.
The following log data is a typical one. He replaced 2 AT in 6 months. Finally replaced the MAF sensor to solve the problem.
His bad MAF sensor looks good when below 100 g/s, but is bad when above 100 g/s.
Sunday 11 January 2004 14:25:15
4B0 906 018 AR 1.8L R4/5VT 0006
Group A: '002 Group B: '115
Idle Speed Engine Load Inj. On Time Air Mass In Engine Speed Engine Load Spec. Boost Actual Boost
TIME 740-920 rpm 15-25% 2.0-4.0 ms 2.0-4.5 g/s TIME 740-6800 RPM 15-175%
STAMP /min % ms g/s STAMP /min % mbar mbar
665.67 800 36.1 4.51 5.56 665.38 760 36.1 1000 1020
666.27 760 36.8 4.51 5.39 665.97 800 36.8 1000 1020
666.87 760 36.1 4.1 5.25 666.57 760 36.8 1000 1020
667.47 800 36.1 4.51 5.36 667.16 760 36.1 1000 1020
668.06 1520 65.4 9.84 19 667.76 800 44.4 1340 1020
668.66 2240 71.4 11.07 33.5 668.37 2000 69.2 2130 1060
669.28 2800 88.7 13.94 52.58 668.97 2480 77.4 2210 1280
669.87 3640 115 19.27 87.67 669.57 3160 103 2110 1650
670.47 4600 118 20.09 100.25 670.17 4080 119.5 2120 2190
671.07 5400 103 16.81 103.11 670.77 5040 109.8 1970 1980
671.68 6080 93.2 16.4 106.92 671.37 5680 99.2 1780 1800
672.28 6600 85 14.76 107.39 671.98 6400 88.7 1710 1710
672.87 4880 106 18.86 104.75 672.57 6040 92.5 1730 1700
673.47 4520 106.8 17.63 91.92 673.17 4480 106 2040 1980
674.07 4720 109.8 18.86 100.69 673.77 4560 108.3 2040 1950
674.68 4960 109 18.45 102.22 674.37 4800 110.5 2010 2030
675.27 5160 105.3 18.04 102.83 674.97 5080 106.8 1940 1980
675.88 5360 102.3 17.63 103.86 675.57 5240 103.8 1890 1920
676.48 5600 99.2 17.63 104.64 676.17 5480 100.8 1830 1860
677.08 5840 95.5 16.81 105.56 676.78 5720 97.7 1780 1810
677.68 6080 91.7 16.81 106.72 677.38 5960 94 1750 1770
678.28 6320 88 16.4 104.81 677.98 6200 90.2 1740 1730
678.88 6520 86.5 15.99 105.19 678.58 6400 86.5 1730 1710
679.48 6160 90.2 15.99 108.67 679.18 6600 85 1720 1710
The following log data is a typical one. He replaced 2 AT in 6 months. Finally replaced the MAF sensor to solve the problem.
His bad MAF sensor looks good when below 100 g/s, but is bad when above 100 g/s.
Sunday 11 January 2004 14:25:15
4B0 906 018 AR 1.8L R4/5VT 0006
Group A: '002 Group B: '115
Idle Speed Engine Load Inj. On Time Air Mass In Engine Speed Engine Load Spec. Boost Actual Boost
TIME 740-920 rpm 15-25% 2.0-4.0 ms 2.0-4.5 g/s TIME 740-6800 RPM 15-175%
STAMP /min % ms g/s STAMP /min % mbar mbar
665.67 800 36.1 4.51 5.56 665.38 760 36.1 1000 1020
666.27 760 36.8 4.51 5.39 665.97 800 36.8 1000 1020
666.87 760 36.1 4.1 5.25 666.57 760 36.8 1000 1020
667.47 800 36.1 4.51 5.36 667.16 760 36.1 1000 1020
668.06 1520 65.4 9.84 19 667.76 800 44.4 1340 1020
668.66 2240 71.4 11.07 33.5 668.37 2000 69.2 2130 1060
669.28 2800 88.7 13.94 52.58 668.97 2480 77.4 2210 1280
669.87 3640 115 19.27 87.67 669.57 3160 103 2110 1650
670.47 4600 118 20.09 100.25 670.17 4080 119.5 2120 2190
671.07 5400 103 16.81 103.11 670.77 5040 109.8 1970 1980
671.68 6080 93.2 16.4 106.92 671.37 5680 99.2 1780 1800
672.28 6600 85 14.76 107.39 671.98 6400 88.7 1710 1710
672.87 4880 106 18.86 104.75 672.57 6040 92.5 1730 1700
673.47 4520 106.8 17.63 91.92 673.17 4480 106 2040 1980
674.07 4720 109.8 18.86 100.69 673.77 4560 108.3 2040 1950
674.68 4960 109 18.45 102.22 674.37 4800 110.5 2010 2030
675.27 5160 105.3 18.04 102.83 674.97 5080 106.8 1940 1980
675.88 5360 102.3 17.63 103.86 675.57 5240 103.8 1890 1920
676.48 5600 99.2 17.63 104.64 676.17 5480 100.8 1830 1860
677.08 5840 95.5 16.81 105.56 676.78 5720 97.7 1780 1810
677.68 6080 91.7 16.81 106.72 677.38 5960 94 1750 1770
678.28 6320 88 16.4 104.81 677.98 6200 90.2 1740 1730
678.88 6520 86.5 15.99 105.19 678.58 6400 86.5 1730 1710
679.48 6160 90.2 15.99 108.67 679.18 6600 85 1720 1710
#6
Good to know! Thank you for your insight on this. May I ask...
...what your customers pay for said rebuilds from ZF? Apologies if this is an inappropriate forum to ask.
Now I'm wondering what to do with the busted transmission soon to be residing in my garage? Planter? Extreme doorstop? Overly effective paperweight? Maybe I'll just pull it apart so I can get a better idea of what resides inside.
Now I'm wondering what to do with the busted transmission soon to be residing in my garage? Planter? Extreme doorstop? Overly effective paperweight? Maybe I'll just pull it apart so I can get a better idea of what resides inside.
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#8
Thanks again! I believe the trans was identified as an 'EYK'. Sound right?
Is the $3200 for ZF to do a proper rebuild? L10 quoted me $5K w/o shipping. BTW, I've only gone through one trans so far, but my warranty co (GL) only sprung for a 'like, kind, quality' unit so who knows what the heck's bolted to my engine now(!). Needless to say, I'm preparing myself for another trans at some point during my ownership, and I just want to be sure that I put the best piece of equipment in there that I can. Think a ZF rebuild will reliably handle an APR 93 Octane flash? I don't see going any farther than that with power upgrades. Everything else will be handling (H-Sports) and brakes (undecided).
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