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Old 02-27-2009, 10:16 AM
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Default Not a Consumer Reports list I want my car to be on.......

but then again, I do not think it will surprise some of us. This list is taken from the newest report that lists the best and worst used vehicles to own. Still doesn't change the fact that I love my ar :-)

These have multiple years of much-worse-than-average reliability among 1999 to 2008 models. Listed alphabetically.
Audi A6 Allroad
Audi A8
BMW X5 (V8)
Buick Rendezvous (AWD)
Cadillac SRX
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Colorado (4WD)
Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
Chevrolet Uplander
Chevrolet Venture
Chrysler Pacifica
Chrysler Sebring convertible
Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
GMC Canyon (4WD)
GMC Jimmy
GMC S-15 Sonoma (4WD) Jeep Grand Cherokee
Kia Sedona
Land Rover Discovery, LR3
Mazda RX-8
Oldsmobile Bravada
Oldsmobile Silhouette
Pontiac Aztek
Pontiac G6 (V6)
Pontiac Montana, Montana SV6
Porsche Cayenne
Saturn Relay
Volkswagen Cabrio
Volkswagen Jetta (V6)
Volkswagen New Beetle (turbo)
Volkswagen Passat (V6, FWD)
Volkswagen Touareg
Volvo XC90 (6-cyl.)
Old 02-27-2009, 11:47 AM
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Default We still like our cars but how much more would you like your car if it were reliable? .....

VW/Audi does need to get their act together with reliability, I just don't get it? I think "Vorsprung Durch Technik" is a big part of the problem. They never seem to hold on to an idea long enough to perfect it, always changing technology=lots of mistakes.
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Default Geez and you wonder why GM is about to go bankrupt. They dominate this list.

VW also problematic. Interesting since I did have a passat for about a year and had more CELs with that car than any other car I have owned in the past 10 years. My allroad, coilpacks aside, was otherwise perfect.
Old 02-27-2009, 12:35 PM
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Default I require far more out of a car than I do a refrigerator...

CR is great for those who know nothing about what they are buying and need the best product for the masses. With regards to cars they are researching for people who don't know when to change their oil, not people who like to drive.

There are plenty of great cars on that list, but if your main focus is reliability no German (or european) car is the way to go. Get a Honda or a Toyota, the drive may suck but they are reliable.
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They never calculate the price of safety
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Default I don't think we need to be defensive about it.

CR is ok for car data. Generally true as is JD Power and Associates. Lets face it the allroad is not the most reliable car guys nor is it cheap to fix. CR was made for the masses and the masses should not buy a high mileage out of warranty allroad in my opinion. So thus its correct.
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Default Here Here, My wifes Suzuki XL7 its reliable , but it sucks driving it, OMG !!

its been in the shop once since new in 02, And that was for the AC compressor, they missed diagnosed it , and said it was the timing belt, they corrected the mistake for free of course, ok back to the point . No fun at all, OMG
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Default Wow, what's not on the list? I read all of these before I bought the ar and

if you look into how Consumer Reports does some of their calcs you will see that many of these are low production vehicles and so any error weighs heavier than for vehicles where there is more data available...sorry this is something I have had trouble with with CR for years...much of their research is not subject to good research methods. <end of rant>
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Default If you saw the newest report reprinted in the Wall Street Journal not that long ago

Audi was near the top and many others were further down the list...i.e. they are doing much better now.
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The list seems to have left off every Benz ever made between 1999-2008


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