Fuel pump done!
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What a PITA! Brand new 3214 VAG tool broke! (And it's going back!)
I purchased both the 3214 & 3087 for the job. The 3087 is a fine piece! (GT500 - you would love it!) (And has all of 30 sec of use!) The 3214 is a POC. Broke apart into 3 pieces inserting the ratchet into it!
Was able to remove the pump carrier with the armstrong method on the remains of the tool. Used a channel lock plier (On the remains) on the installation.
I have thoughts on how to build a superior tool for $5 or less. In 10 min or less.
Result? The dentist is back in his office & out of my trunk! Quiet at last!
Old pump was a VDO (!!!) I installed a Pierburg (From Shokan) from good (Quiet) things I researched. Highly recomend!
Folks - this is a just plain nasty job. Bently is lacking. Lots of things just not addressed.
My thanks to those of you who have lent support.
I hope to have a tool lending program up as soon as I find out about the recourse. (If they replace the tool - I will make an adapter to eliminate the breakage problem - Refund my $$? I will make the proper tool.)
Buy 3 new hose clamps (for 5/8" OD hose.) Buy 2 12X15 (16 OK) copper / aluminium sealing rings. Buy a new sender to fuel tank O ring. Grease the O ring. Take pictures for all of the positioning relationships. (I didn't!) Buy plenty of beer! (AFTER you fill up!) Make sure the low fuel warning comes up! Drive it a while more! See a shrink!
I purchased both the 3214 & 3087 for the job. The 3087 is a fine piece! (GT500 - you would love it!) (And has all of 30 sec of use!) The 3214 is a POC. Broke apart into 3 pieces inserting the ratchet into it!
Was able to remove the pump carrier with the armstrong method on the remains of the tool. Used a channel lock plier (On the remains) on the installation.
I have thoughts on how to build a superior tool for $5 or less. In 10 min or less.
Result? The dentist is back in his office & out of my trunk! Quiet at last!
Old pump was a VDO (!!!) I installed a Pierburg (From Shokan) from good (Quiet) things I researched. Highly recomend!
Folks - this is a just plain nasty job. Bently is lacking. Lots of things just not addressed.
My thanks to those of you who have lent support.
I hope to have a tool lending program up as soon as I find out about the recourse. (If they replace the tool - I will make an adapter to eliminate the breakage problem - Refund my $$? I will make the proper tool.)
Buy 3 new hose clamps (for 5/8" OD hose.) Buy 2 12X15 (16 OK) copper / aluminium sealing rings. Buy a new sender to fuel tank O ring. Grease the O ring. Take pictures for all of the positioning relationships. (I didn't!) Buy plenty of beer! (AFTER you fill up!) Make sure the low fuel warning comes up! Drive it a while more! See a shrink!
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although Bosch made a fuel pump (0 580 453 081 (short number 61381)) for our cars, they may or may not be in any North American cars. In any event, our 091 G pump (whoever made it, VDO or Bosch) crosses over into many other Audi's including the V6 Audi 90. Not encouraging when you are looking for a pump that will supply 370 hp of fuel at 86 psi plus.
My original fuel pump died 18 months ago and it was a VDO but I don't know what the replacement was (a stealership replaced it (don't ask - I was trapped on a road trip)). I have since held a Pierburg (made in Austria and supposedly well respected) (CDN$165) and outwardly it looks the same as the VDO.
I have been trying to track down the spec's on these pumps, e.g. fuel flow and pressure curves, but I have had no luck. I talked to tekkies at Bosch USA several times this week but every angle I tried was met with a "Sorry, sir, that pump was made exclusively for Audi and we can not release the specifications for the pump".
In any event, if you could do a write up on the installation, I am sure the list(s) would appreciate it.
Dave F.
My original fuel pump died 18 months ago and it was a VDO but I don't know what the replacement was (a stealership replaced it (don't ask - I was trapped on a road trip)). I have since held a Pierburg (made in Austria and supposedly well respected) (CDN$165) and outwardly it looks the same as the VDO.
I have been trying to track down the spec's on these pumps, e.g. fuel flow and pressure curves, but I have had no luck. I talked to tekkies at Bosch USA several times this week but every angle I tried was met with a "Sorry, sir, that pump was made exclusively for Audi and we can not release the specifications for the pump".
In any event, if you could do a write up on the installation, I am sure the list(s) would appreciate it.
Dave F.
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A write up - that is. ETKA shots - Bently shots - .357 shots to the head of the designer (Kidding, there - sortof...) and my colorful prose.
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