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How the heck do you lighten these things up?

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Old 11-09-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default it'll give you ~3/4" of extra clearance

and then you can rip out all the lines, the reciever/drier behind the pentosin reservoir, the evap core in the rain tray, and the compressor. you'd have to find an idler pulley to replace the comp though. dunno if 3/4" is enough to make the difference for a front mount. AlpinaB7's car has a front mount with AC and S6+ bumper but it's a vertical flow one-off.
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Default dead simple

1. buy S4/S6
2. swap unibody for that of an 80tq
3. done

these cars are porkers, there really is no way around it. you can try to lighten them, but it's kinda of a futile effort.
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Exactly, UrS cars use the A6(C-series) chassis
Old 11-09-2006, 04:52 PM
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No. They use the C4 chasis. The A6 did not even exist when the UrS4 came out.
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Default Here's a component weight list if you were interested, taken from SJM autotechnik

Weight of some of the individual parts from a 1994 Audi S4 with 2.22 litre 5 cylinder engine.
* AAN Engine code 5 cylinder Engine Block with Pistons, rods, crankshaft, Oil pump assembly, oil pickup and oil pan, but without the following: oil filter housing, crank damper pulley and flywheel. 192 lbs
* Bare engine block without the following: No crankshaft, rods, pistons, oil pump or rear seal flange 118 lbs
* Crankshaft 44 lbs
* 5 pistons with 5 rods ~13 lbs
* Oil Pump assembly and rear seal flange 5 lbs
* Oil Pan, pickup and windage tray 12 lbs
* Front Crank damper pulley 11 lbs
* Dual mass Flywheel 27 lbs
* Complete Cylinder head with valves, 2 camshafts, intake manifold, fuel injectors, exhaust manifold 100 lbs
* Turbocharger 15 lbs
* Exhaust Downpipe 14.5 lbs
* A/C Compressor 17.5 lbs
* Alternator 16 lbs
* Turbocharger crossover pipe 4 lbs
* Intercooler with mounting brackets 11.5 lbs
* 01E 5 speed Transmission with shift linkage and Procon Ten cable guide 159 lbs
* Rear Differential with differential lock 73 lbs
* Rear suspension, including subframe, trailing arms, rear hubs, spindles, differential, differential lock and 2 axles/4 CV's, (does not include shocks/struts/springs/upper-shock-mount) 192 lbs
* Front to rear Driveshaft 25 lbs
* 2 rear axles with inner and outer CV's 29 lbs
* Rear strut, spring, upper shock mount 15 lbs
* 16X8 five spoke forged alloy wheel 18lbs
* 16 X 8 five spoke wheel with 225/50X16 Dunlop SP 4000 Tire 46 lbs
* Front Sway bar with 2 bushings 15 lbs
* Left Front Strut with coil spring, upper strut mount, strut bearing 43 lbs
* Left front Lower control arm 6 lbs
* Front Subframe with 4 subframe bushings 27 lbs
* Steering shaft with adjustable column mount 14 lbs
* Shifter and shift linkage 5 lbs
* Front Brake rotor and G60 caliper and brake line 31 lbs
* G60 Brake Caliper and brake line 16 lbs
* Front Brake rotor 15-16 lbs
* Front shock and coil spring 14 lbs
* 2 Rear Brake Calipers 17 lbs
* L/F Strut housing with wheel hub and wheel bearing 22 lbs
* Dual exhaust system with dual catalytic convertors, includes center resonator, rear muffler 107 lbs
* 2 Catalytic convertors 25 lbs
* Power Steering pump with mounting bracket with belt tensioner 13.5 lbs
* Power Steering pump without pulley 6 lbs
* ABS Hydraulic Assembly 11 lbs
* Brake Hydraulic Booster 3 lbs
* Brake Master Cylinder 2 lbs
* Brake Accumulator (bomb)and mounting bracket 4.5 lbs
* Emergency brake handle and cable guide 2.5 lbs
* Front hood sheetmetal, without grill, without hinges or hood shock 51 lbs
* L/F Fender 9 lbs
* Rear Trunk lid with hinges/shocks without tail light lenses 41 lbs
* Rear Bumper with cover 27 lbs
* Drivers Seat with armrest, sport version black leather 67 lbs
* Passenger front seat, sport version black leather 60 lbs
* Rear seat bottom, sport version black leather 20 lbs
* Rear Seat back with center arm rest, sport version black leather 20 lbs
* Left Rear View Mirror complete 2.5 lbs
* Right Rear View Mirror complete 2 lbs
* Left front door sheetmetal skin with hinges 34 lbs
* Left front door aluminum frame with glass and electric motor 22 lbs
* Left front door panel with Bose speaker without handles trim 12 lbs
* Left front door complete 70 lbs
* Left rear door complete ~50 lbs
* Left rear door sheetmetal skin with hinges 27 lbs
* Left rear door aluminum frame with glass and electric motor 18 lbs
* Left rear door glass 7 lbs
* Pedal Assembly with clutch master 8 lbs
* Sunroof glass panel with sunshade 21 lbs
* Sunroof metal support frame with guide cables, wind/rain deflector and motor 29 lbs
* Headliner 5 lbs
* Misc. Body hardware, nuts and bolts 22 lbs
* Vehicle wiring harnesses except ECU harness with battery cables 54 lbs
* Seat Heater wiring harness 3 lbs
* Power Window and mirror harness 7 lbs
* Windshield wiper motor and arm assembly 7 lbs
* Headlamp assembly 7 lbs
* A/C Evaporator housing with evaporator 11.5 lbs
* Heater box with blower 15.5 lbs
* Procon Ten cables and guides including front seat belt retractors 13 lbs
* Empty Gas Tank with fuel pump and fuel sending unit 40 lbs
Bare Body with front windshield and rear window, dashboard, and front hood, otherwise it is stripped clean without the following items: drivetrain, the front and rear suspension, the 4 doors, both fenders, rear trunk lid, no wiring, no interior, no carpet, no headliner, no sunroof assembly.. 850 lbs
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Simple, and I know both of you know this... C4 - 100, early A6, S4, S6 C5-A6, allRoad
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WHat's the point of a big luxo barge with no A/C?
Old 11-09-2006, 08:39 PM
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Lol, damm that about covers it!
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I have not used AC in about 6 years, though I don't drive in cities
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