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Old 09-12-2004, 11:31 AM
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Default Air/fuel gauge working, says I'm running very lean......

As it should, at idle or moderate gas it's bouncing between lean/rich.

When I go WOT it's showing very lean, WOT is when you get a true reading.

So, what now? Do MTM stage 1+ cars tend to run this way? Any ideas about what I can do to correct it? TIA
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Default I hear MTM 1+ is designed to run lean at WOT which is why you get a stink from your cats

after a spirited run.
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Default I beg to differ

MTM1+ runs 12.5 AFR at WOT as measured on several cars. I do not call 12.5 AFR lean, it might be a little "not rich enough" for CA's craptane for instance, but by no means LEAN.
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Default Pls check the voltage at the fuel pump

As recently pointed out by some people running RS2 setups, the fuel pump ends up not getting enough voltage (ageing wiring???) so cars run lean at WOT eventually. This is not an MTM 1+ feature as far as I know but a known problem (I've ran across it several times)...

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PS: if you're getting something stupid like 11v at the pump, simply use the existing wiring to trigger a relay and get direct power supply from the battery. This should solve the problem.
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Aiii. Just repeating what I read on the S-Car liste.
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Default Lol, no problem

I know what's been told but I know what I have read inside those chips and what I have measured with my WBO2 system on 1+'d cars :-)))

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Thanks very much Mihnea, I'll check that.
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Default Another possibility....

Less likely but still...

If the MAF to turbo hose has a leak in it, false air is going to be sucked into the engine, the MAF will measure much less air going through than what is really going in, thus the ECU will only give fuel for the measured amount of air...

This isn't very likely but still, it's worth it to check this as well, as troubleshooting is never going to cost as much as going through the hassle of replacing an engine in case something melts because of a way too lean mixture...

HTH again,

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Mihnea: If the MAF measures more air than is reaching the engine, wouldn't you end up 'rich'?
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Default Boot between the MAF and turbo.....

If unmetered air enters here, the MAF won't read it and therefore you have more air being sucked in than the MAF is calculating fuel for = lean.


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