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Old 01-19-2008, 12:44 PM
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Default torque is where it comes into play

Both how much and where it's made. Those smaller motors you listed all make their power and torque high up in the RPM range. The big displacement motors tend to make gobs of torque down low, where it is more usable for driving normally.
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So are you saying a 3071 in a 2.2 I5 is not good as a daily driver? Driving normal means? 3K>?
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Default Dunno, never driven one

but turbo/superchargers make up for the lack of displacement. I guarantee that the car still won't make power like a big displacement V8. Even with the stock K24 the power doesn't come in until over 3k or so. I know a bigger turbo isn't going to bring that down.
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Mushasho, I'm with Travis here. He's referencing where the torque is made.
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Default Then again, turbo "technology" has brought us BallBearing units that promise @3k full boost on big

turbos...

I'm only bringing this up cuz, like others on the forum, we're always looking for that delicate balance, and plan to make an informed decision. Not many logged 3071's on the forum which is why it's good conversation...
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exactly, it isn't just the amount, it's where it is.
Old 01-19-2008, 01:23 PM
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Default I see, however I also see 2 dyno charts where one tuner purposely detuned the torque...

It just gave me the impression that with a standalone ecu one can perhaps flatten such torque bands out, in lieu of a high peak torque...(for daily driving of couse) then switch to the more aggresive tune when needed.

So the question is, Just how much control does one have with standalone in regards to those power curves?
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unlimited control
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So it's possible to flatten that out and get some of that torque sooner?
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Default unlimited control within the bounds of the hardware on the car :)

more torque earlier would be possible with race gas and more timing in the lower rpm band. This would show up as the boost building sooner.


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