"driver availability recognition" message
#11
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If you need to get out of your seat, then how is this a safety issue if the car turns off? In fact NHTSA will likely side with Audi.
Now in terms of lifting yourself from the seat while seated. I tried tried doing this yesterday. I often turn my shoulder around while backing up or turning even with the camera. However, I guess I was not able to lift myself up totally off the seat because the car stayed on. Personally this is no issue for me but obviously many of us are able to do this regularly. So I think Audi should just get rid of the feature - there is already a button there - why make gimmicky changes.
Now in terms of lifting yourself from the seat while seated. I tried tried doing this yesterday. I often turn my shoulder around while backing up or turning even with the camera. However, I guess I was not able to lift myself up totally off the seat because the car stayed on. Personally this is no issue for me but obviously many of us are able to do this regularly. So I think Audi should just get rid of the feature - there is already a button there - why make gimmicky changes.
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If you need to get out of your seat, then how is this a safety issue if the car turns off? In fact NHTSA will likely side with Audi.
Now in terms of lifting yourself from the seat while seated. I tried tried doing this yesterday. I often turn my shoulder around while backing up or turning even with the camera. However, I guess I was not able to lift myself up totally off the seat because the car stayed on. Personally this is no issue for me but obviously many of us are able to do this regularly. So I think Audi should just get rid of the feature - there is already a button there - why make gimmicky changes.
Now in terms of lifting yourself from the seat while seated. I tried tried doing this yesterday. I often turn my shoulder around while backing up or turning even with the camera. However, I guess I was not able to lift myself up totally off the seat because the car stayed on. Personally this is no issue for me but obviously many of us are able to do this regularly. So I think Audi should just get rid of the feature - there is already a button there - why make gimmicky changes.
#13
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If you need to get out of your seat, then how is this a safety issue if the car turns off? In fact NHTSA will likely side with Audi.
Now in terms of lifting yourself from the seat while seated. I tried tried doing this yesterday. I often turn my shoulder around while backing up or turning even with the camera. However, I guess I was not able to lift myself up totally off the seat because the car stayed on. Personally this is no issue for me but obviously many of us are able to do this regularly. So I think Audi should just get rid of the feature - there is already a button there - why make gimmicky changes.
Now in terms of lifting yourself from the seat while seated. I tried tried doing this yesterday. I often turn my shoulder around while backing up or turning even with the camera. However, I guess I was not able to lift myself up totally off the seat because the car stayed on. Personally this is no issue for me but obviously many of us are able to do this regularly. So I think Audi should just get rid of the feature - there is already a button there - why make gimmicky changes.
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Last edited by superswiss; 11-15-2022 at 10:23 AM.
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Fundamentally they need to look at the whole context of the sensor reading and not just on its own. Is the seatbelt still fastened? Is the door closed? Maybe don't freak out.
Belt is unfastened, door is open, and the weight comes off the seat? Sure, ok,
Belt is unfastened, door is open, and the weight comes off the seat? Sure, ok,
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Or, you know, just use the f*cking power button and stop guessing at what I want the car to do.
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On multiple occasions while driving, I have received a message saying "driver availability recognition not possible" and the car will not move. It happens if I raise up in my seat a little and turn to reach something in the backseat while I am stopped at a traffic light and it's really awful, not to mention dangerous. I have a very hard time figuring out how to fix the situation. I sort of panic and keep trying different things with brake pedal, start button and gear selector until finally some combination of things works and the car will move again. I tested it out yesterday and it doesn't seem to be related to seat belt fastening. Has anyone else had this problem or understand exactly what circumstances trigger this warning and how to correct for it?
This happened to me about ten days ago in my 2023 Q4 étron that we leased three months ago. I was actively accelerating and going about 10mph and it just halted to a dead stop. At first I thought it was the driver assistance or that I had hit something but then I saw the same message on the dash. The car wouldn’t start. I kept turning it off and on, pressing the brake, trying to shift into gear and it kept turning off and shifting into park. This was on a busy street in Seattle and I was blocking traffic. Some people stopped to try to help me push it off the road but the brake wouldn’t disengage. I called a tow truck and while I was waiting I tried again to start it. I moved my seat back and forth and then it started and I reversed off the road. The tow truck driver came and it wouldn’t start again. He tried the same trick with the seat and it started and he was able to get it on the truck. At the dealership though he wasn’t able to start it to get it off the truck. No fault codes came up and the technicians haven’t been able to replicate the issue. Everyone seems to be at a loss as to what to do. They said they will just keep driving it to see if an error code comes up but they don’t have any other way to debug issues, which seems absurd to me. At this point I don’t feel safe driving the car unless they can identify and fix the issue. The fact that the car did this and then didn’t even produce a fault code is very worrisome.
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This happened to me about ten days ago in my 2023 Q4 étron that we leased three months ago. I was actively accelerating and going about 10mph and it just halted to a dead stop. At first I thought it was the driver assistance or that I had hit something but then I saw the same message on the dash. The car wouldn’t start. I kept turning it off and on, pressing the brake, trying to shift into gear and it kept turning off and shifting into park. This was on a busy street in Seattle and I was blocking traffic. Some people stopped to try to help me push it off the road but the brake wouldn’t disengage. I called a tow truck and while I was waiting I tried again to start it. I moved my seat back and forth and then it started and I reversed off the road. The tow truck driver came and it wouldn’t start again. He tried the same trick with the seat and it started and he was able to get it on the truck. At the dealership though he wasn’t able to start it to get it off the truck. No fault codes came up and the technicians haven’t been able to replicate the issue. Everyone seems to be at a loss as to what to do. They said they will just keep driving it to see if an error code comes up but they don’t have any other way to debug issues, which seems absurd to me. At this point I don’t feel safe driving the car unless they can identify and fix the issue. The fact that the car did this and then didn’t even produce a fault code is very worrisome.
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