ThomasWShea

i read the long article @kelisko shared the link to. Interesting that it isn’t software, which I think a lot of us suspected was B.S. from the beginning. I sure would love to know the details but both sides are keeping that under tight wraps with all the fighting. probably some fault on both sides. both sides were probably trying to get a leg up / extra buck out of the situation, but the gamble didn’t pay out. everything is negotiable, and ultimately i would assume they are going to reach some kind of agreement. audi wants to lessen their burden and vitesco wants the long term business. despite being all pissed off, hopefully both sides learned what can be gotten away with and we will end up with better products in this space going forward.

kelisko

You probably missed my last post above that I quoted below. European owners do have to pay out of pocket if they want their working BSG replaced with the revised one.

Lego_Maniac

Start/Stop as a root cause is just speculation. I religiously disabled S/S and my BSG still failed.

Good luck! You'll probably be fine. Probably

angrypengu

This is the same as with every single TSB since the dawn of time. Need I get into the rocker arm debate as well? Same thing. Want the new PN before it explodes? Pay for it. Welcome to life.

I'm honestly surprised people haven't made a huge fuss about the rocker arm failures on the EA839. The BSG fix (proactive or not) is *cheap* compared to the rocker arm failure and yet the latter doesn't even have an extended warranty from Audi.

Oh wait, maybe I should have kept my mouth shut before the pitchforks start coming out for that one too. *yawn.

retom

Yes, but in case of BSG failure it is replaced free of charge and covered by 7 years warranty. Regardless of the fact if the car is covered or not covered by the factory warranty.

kelisko

Bravo to Audi for managing such serious design flaws with "great professionalism"! Owners of these flawed vehicles are very happy customers, yay!

kelisko

We are on the same page with the first phrase of your comment but I am not sure I understand the second one.

retom

This means that even if the warranty on the car has already expired, dealers replace the BSG at no cost and Audi provides a 7-year warranty on the new BSG.

kelisko

So we are saying the same thing here. The BSGs are covered by a 7-year warranty in Europe as well. But there is no replacement campaign there and owners who want their flawed original but still working BSG replaced by the revised one for peace of mind must pay out of pocket. This is what I have been saying since the beginning. You probably missed the context in which I made the comments which is about the recall vs campaign reality.

angrypengu

And you missed the comment that these things take time. You've written off the UK from proactive replacements when it was just announced in North America like, what, a month ago? I don't get where your entitlement comes from but no OEM generally fixes problems proactively. It's a car, and you own an Audi. RR doesn't do this, Bentley doesn't do this, in fact, no OEM on the planet proactively replaces parts as they're updated.

Reality check would be helpful. I honestly feel like you're trolling but will give you the benefit of the doubt.

PS - proactive part replacements don't even happen in *aviation*. (minus an airworthiness directive)