OT? Question regarding U-Turn yield sign at traffic lights...
10-26-2007, 04:17 PM
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OT? Question regarding U-Turn yield sign at traffic lights...
what does it mean? I've seen them around but i have no idea what it means. Tonight i was stuck at a red light and somehow got skipped in the light rotation, and i saw the U-turn yield sign so i figured if im making a u-turn i can just yield to traffic and be on my way. I'm from new jersey and ive never seen the sign before, i was hoping you florida guys could explain it to me
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Sean
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10-26-2007, 06:17 PM
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It means that if you are returning to Jersey you may make the U-turn if not then wait for the next
light...J/K All flashing yellow lights mean proceed with caution , just flashing red light means STOP then proceed with caution... I'm pretty sure anyway..
10-26-2007, 11:11 PM
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im asking about the sign itself...
can i make a legal U-turn at a red light when there is a sign that says U-Turn yield? Ive seen them all around florida im sure you guys have also, i just dont know what its purpose is.
im thinking i should just ask a cop
im thinking i should just ask a cop
10-27-2007, 02:34 AM
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I think...
I have seen the U-turn yield sign posted when the cross-traffic coming from the left has a right-turn green arrow that appears at the same time as the left-turn on green arrow.
So the situation is that the cross-traffic from your left has a right-turn green arrow at the same time that you have the left-turn green arrow. Someone that wants to make a U-turn instead of the left-turn in that situation will potentially come into conflict with someone making the right-turn since both vehicles will want to enter the same lane during the same cycle. The U-turn yield sign makes it "clear" (?) that the person making the U-turn on green should yield to the person making the right-turn on green.
(And yield to pedestrians in the cross-walk, but that's always the case - even though a pedestrian would likely be in the cross-walk against the red during the left-turn green cycle.)
As for a red arrow...I believe the law is that you cannot enter an intersection if the light is red - unless there is an exception. I don't believe Florida has a left-turn on red exception, unless you're turning from a one-way street to another one-way street after stopping. Florida does allow a right-turn on red after stopping.
That said, I was able to successfully defend a citation for a U-turn against the red-arrow on a normal road intersection, but the circumstances were rather special. In that case, the intersection had the left-turn lane stop bar well behind the "legal" definition of the intersection. So the car was able to make the U-turn without actually entering the intersection...Case Dismissed! Before you go out and try this, you do have remember that there are other rules you need to watch. For example, we all know it's also illegal to cross double-yellow "safety zone." In many cases where the left-turn lanes stop short of the intersection, there are safety zone markers extending all the way to the cross-walks or intersection, so you while you might be able to make a U-turn on red w/o entering the intersection, you might have to cross a safety zone and get a ticket for that.
Now if someone could just re-train US drivers on the proper way to yield at a round-about. There's a round-about in Oviedo that has a lot of traffic and it's always an adventure. Yesterday on the way home from work I had a lady in a mini-van to my *right* on the round-about blow her horn and give me the finger because she thought I was supposed to yield to her. Stoopid bitch.
Even scarier...about 3 months ago I had a school bus driver that failed to yield to me on the same round-about.
For some reason, US drivers want to treat a round-about like a 4-way stop.
So the situation is that the cross-traffic from your left has a right-turn green arrow at the same time that you have the left-turn green arrow. Someone that wants to make a U-turn instead of the left-turn in that situation will potentially come into conflict with someone making the right-turn since both vehicles will want to enter the same lane during the same cycle. The U-turn yield sign makes it "clear" (?) that the person making the U-turn on green should yield to the person making the right-turn on green.
(And yield to pedestrians in the cross-walk, but that's always the case - even though a pedestrian would likely be in the cross-walk against the red during the left-turn green cycle.)
As for a red arrow...I believe the law is that you cannot enter an intersection if the light is red - unless there is an exception. I don't believe Florida has a left-turn on red exception, unless you're turning from a one-way street to another one-way street after stopping. Florida does allow a right-turn on red after stopping.
That said, I was able to successfully defend a citation for a U-turn against the red-arrow on a normal road intersection, but the circumstances were rather special. In that case, the intersection had the left-turn lane stop bar well behind the "legal" definition of the intersection. So the car was able to make the U-turn without actually entering the intersection...Case Dismissed! Before you go out and try this, you do have remember that there are other rules you need to watch. For example, we all know it's also illegal to cross double-yellow "safety zone." In many cases where the left-turn lanes stop short of the intersection, there are safety zone markers extending all the way to the cross-walks or intersection, so you while you might be able to make a U-turn on red w/o entering the intersection, you might have to cross a safety zone and get a ticket for that.
Now if someone could just re-train US drivers on the proper way to yield at a round-about. There's a round-about in Oviedo that has a lot of traffic and it's always an adventure. Yesterday on the way home from work I had a lady in a mini-van to my *right* on the round-about blow her horn and give me the finger because she thought I was supposed to yield to her. Stoopid bitch.
Even scarier...about 3 months ago I had a school bus driver that failed to yield to me on the same round-about.
For some reason, US drivers want to treat a round-about like a 4-way stop.
10-27-2007, 06:09 AM
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Are you talking about this sign?
<img src="http://stateofflorida.com/Portal/images/fig21.gif">
That's a NO U-Turn sign straight out of the Florida Drivers handbook. I have never seen a "yield" u-turn sign..
That's a NO U-Turn sign straight out of the Florida Drivers handbook. I have never seen a "yield" u-turn sign..
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10-27-2007, 08:49 AM
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No not that sign...
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I believe I've seen this in Florida before, but I don't know an intersection. I seem to remember something similar in California that was posted in the center divider.
I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that the person making a U-turn must yield to a person making the right on right-arrow, even without the sign. So even w/o the sign, the person making the u-turn on the left-arrow would need to yield to the person making the right-turn on the right-arrow. On the other hand, I think the person making the right-turn on red would need to yield to the person making the u-turn on the left-arrow.
I think.
I believe I've seen this in Florida before, but I don't know an intersection. I seem to remember something similar in California that was posted in the center divider.
I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that the person making a U-turn must yield to a person making the right on right-arrow, even without the sign. So even w/o the sign, the person making the u-turn on the left-arrow would need to yield to the person making the right-turn on the right-arrow. On the other hand, I think the person making the right-turn on red would need to yield to the person making the u-turn on the left-arrow.
I think.