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Anyone have the formula for how much degrees of banking increases cornering G's?

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Old 03-29-2004, 10:06 AM
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Default Oops - Typo

Should be:
G = (cos(a) + sin(a))/(1-cos(a))

Not:
G = (cos(a) - sin(a))/(1-cos(a))

I had it right on the paper, but my fingers failed.
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I'm good at worthless math. It works when the angle is trivial and fails the reality test when the banking is significant.

Have I told you my theroy about g-sum?
How about driver suit color?
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and thanks for saving the day :-)
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Default Oops, wait again. I think the denominator in the equation needs to be (1-SIN(a))

Not (1-COS(a)) -- that is if cosine is adjacent side over hypotnuse, and sine is opposite side over hypotnuse, correct? This is the case at least as to how Excel is computing it.

This also gets me to thinking that cosine should be replaced with a tangent function, as the radius of a corner would normally ignore banking (the hypotnuse), correct?
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Default I think you are right.

Though this is mental masturbation because (again) the change in tire characteristics is so big, it destroys this equation matching reality.

But, the component you are talking about is the downward component of the lateral G so I think you are right. It would also take a bit more thought to be sure whether G is horizontal to the earth or the track.
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Dude, this is just geometry and algebra, with a dash of racing physics, from high school. ;-)


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