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Old 05-01-2003, 05:23 AM
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Default Anyone here run with the BMWCCA in the North East? - Watkins Glen or Lime Rock

How does BMWCCA compare to Quatttro Club...their prices seem a little cheaper?

I'm planning on attending the 2 Quattro Club Watkins Glen Days one is in July and the other in August.
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Default I do...they offer less "stuff"

(no shirts, etc) but I have found that, at Lime Rock, for example, there is more room. I think run groups are smaller.

However, I don't know about the prices being better. The CT Valley and Patroon Chapters were offering 1-day LRP events for $195. NE Chapter has LRP for about $320 or so. Of course, someone below posted other chapters offer LRP for $125 or so...but I am not sure how many cars are on the track at once at those events.

Now, for $195 you get less cars on the track. For $320 (or so) you have a bit more vehicles on the track (IMHO).

Can't say about WG.
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Default Varies I guess...

I did Road america with the BMW club last year. It was $325, weekend, and we got 4 runs per day.

QC was $375 for 2 weekdays, and with only 3 runs.
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Default Re: Varies I guess...

I have to look into it more. I'm trying to get as many track days this summer the most cost effective way.
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Default Perhaps time of year?

I know VIR weekends in an "off" season is cheaper than weekdays in the summer, etc...

A lot of it also has to do with:

1) insurance policy and associated costs
2) sponsorship $$
3) instructors, etc. Too few instructors means fewer sessions, fewer students, more $$$ to attend.

But, of course, too many instructors means to many groups, not enough sessions.

It's a balancing act. I've run 5-6 events in the past 3 years. It's a time consuming process to keep costs down, make a profit, get everyone on the track more.

Also, I belive that 3 30-min sessions per day are better than 4 20-min sessions. But that's just me
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Default I have run with the BMWCCA at Sears Point Raceway before

They are more structured...less tolerant of spins/etc.
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didnt someone roll in QC, that would explain only 3 runs.
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Default Yes, but doesn't explain only three runs...

Up until last year the QC also had four runs a day, last year all groups were scheduled for only 3.
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Default depends on the chapter.

Some chapters (Boston, White Mountain, Genessee Valley) are inexpensive, well-run, and not too uptight. Others (patroon, ct. valley) are quite expensive and a bit officious.

I don't have any experience with audi events, so I can't really provide a good comparison.

I'm also a fan of COM (http://www.comscc.org), which has good instruction, with the option of participating in their time trials if you want. good fun.
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Default I instructed with the Patroons at LRP in April and thought it was a good

organization. They had some very dedicated and experienced head instructors there. Tony F. from Trackmasters and Steve E. from NEQ, two of the best in this business. There was no lunch break so everyone had lots of track time.


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