SteveK-O (stock!)

I'm finally going to take the drivers school at Road America in Sept! I love the way my car corners (A4 2.8 sport suspension), but I have to hold on to the wheel for dear life to keep my rear in the seat. I have leather non-sport seats as the sports seats were not available when I bought my car.

What can I add to hold my rear in the seat? I'm thinking about trying some of the sticky mat mesh I use for my van cargo area. Someone must have figured out a way to do this. This is my daily driver, so any mods must be reversible.

Thanks for any help,

Steve-O A4 2.8QMS with slick wide leather seats

CP

Pull your seat all the way back, with the seatbelt on. Then pull it tight and yank it quickly so that it catches and stops close to your body. Then pull your seat forward again into your regular position. This should hold you in pretty well.

ihavenoaudi

whatever u do, don't install a harness w/o a cage when going to the track

WYSIWYG

you can also slide your seat forward for tightness

EricBell

This is an excellent option, works real well with power seats.

EricBell

Also, use your left foot on the dead peddle to push yourself into your set more.

DougR

I've read discussion on this before, but came away undecided. It makes some kind of intuitive sense to me -- you wouldn't want to be locked into your seat bolt-upright if you roll the car and the roof collapses, but of all the things to worry about, is this one of them???

I'd really like to be secured to my seat better than my seat belts can accomplish. Interesting data point - 3 separate instructors that I rode with at the NEQ/QCUSA Lime Rock event had harnesses but no cages in their cars.

Sharon

The controversy is less with the harness, than with the use of a submarine belt. It's all a matter of how much risk you're willing to accept. If you are in some non-rollover accidents, you'll be happy to have had a submarine belt that prevented you from sliding forward, but do you want that fixed position when you're on your roof and you're suddenly questioning whether the pillars are going to hold? Use the submarine belt at an autocross and not at the track, perhaps. It's up to you.

You can get a nice, bolt in Schroth 4pt harness -- DOT blessed -- for about $150, install yourself and satisfy 95% of the needs on this board.

markbradford

I'd rather have 100% of my concentration on the track rather than 90% on the track and 10% on keeping my left knee against the door and right elbow next to the seat.

Mark Dalen

The main purpose of the anti-sub belt is to keep the lap belt across your hips. Without this belt, most systems will climb up when you tighten the shoulder harness, pulling the lap belt up to the stomach. This can cause major injury in a wreck.
In a lay down car (like a formula car) the anti-sub belt also keeps the driver from sliding under the belts.