EVO crash
05-08-2006, 05:02 PM
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just out of curiosity (and im not backing him up on this)
how do you see his hands in that video, other then when he went off.
I agree his entry into both turns were pretty rubbish, but how did you see the rest?
I agree his entry into both turns were pretty rubbish, but how did you see the rest?
05-08-2006, 05:10 PM
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first turn tells me everything I need to know
granted, it is possible that it was an anomoly - perhaps he has great hand position for the rest of the time. But judging by his behavior later in the video, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
05-08-2006, 05:11 PM
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gotcha.
I'm just trying to learn here, don't take it the wrong way, I myself only have a few hours of track experience. What should he have done differently coming out of that first turn?
05-08-2006, 05:18 PM
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the biggest error I see...
(and note I'm not an instructor, just a schmuck with a few more hours of track time than you)
...is that he tries to "save" the car by jerking it back on track. Judging by the video, the EVO driver made the same mistake. In that situation with wheels off, you want to minimize your inputs and slowly bring the car back on track.
He's also crossing his arms - hands should stay at (9+3,10+2 - pick your favorite, differing opinions on that) while shuffling the wheel.
...is that he tries to "save" the car by jerking it back on track. Judging by the video, the EVO driver made the same mistake. In that situation with wheels off, you want to minimize your inputs and slowly bring the car back on track.
He's also crossing his arms - hands should stay at (9+3,10+2 - pick your favorite, differing opinions on that) while shuffling the wheel.
05-08-2006, 05:54 PM
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from having driven that course a day before [edit]
That's the hairpin, which is a second gear corner. He looks like he was coming in hot or got on the gas too quickly out of the turn. [ed: looking at it again, he puts two wheels off and then jerks the car back on the track, which is very, very bad] Yourk - You should think of your hands and feet as being connected. As you straighten the wheel, you can get back on the gas. Fast = smooth on the track. Always want to make subtle changes whenever possible and in the words of Bruce Lee (hey, always room for a good Bruce Lee quote) Be like water.
I didn't see him on track, but when talking to a couple of other folks at the track who did on Friday, mentioned that he needed to slow down a bit and learn some more. Starting off in an underpowered car is usually the best bet. Heck my friend in a Cooper S was passing everything from Vettes, elises, a noble!, viper, and many more.
I didn't see him on track, but when talking to a couple of other folks at the track who did on Friday, mentioned that he needed to slow down a bit and learn some more. Starting off in an underpowered car is usually the best bet. Heck my friend in a Cooper S was passing everything from Vettes, elises, a noble!, viper, and many more.
05-08-2006, 06:53 PM
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Yes... looks like he tracked out too far (early apex or just unwound too abruptly)...
panicked and tried to jerk the car back on track (common enough mistake) and it looks like he probably had ESP on (thank god) because his late countersteer wouldn't otherwise have saved it.
Hand position only hurt matters, made un-smooth inputs even less smooth.
He didn't listen to his instructor AT ALL.
Then the pulling over to the crash scene... that's just so incredibly lacking in common sense that I'm amazed.
Hand position only hurt matters, made un-smooth inputs even less smooth.
He didn't listen to his instructor AT ALL.
Then the pulling over to the crash scene... that's just so incredibly lacking in common sense that I'm amazed.
