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Old 03-10-2002, 11:53 AM
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Default Spool up and flow are supposedly identical to the Stage 3 GT25...

...according to Turbo Specialties who used to do all of APRs turbos.

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isnt the gt25 ball bearing while the t3/t4 isnt tho?
Old 03-10-2002, 10:58 PM
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Default Yup...

...so the GT25 has a slightly larger turbine than this T3 setup. The Ceramic BBs in the GT25 setup compensate for the larger turbine. The smaller (relative) T3 turbine makes up for the spool up delay.

Will the GT25 still spool up slightly faster? Probably. Is it worth an extra $700? Nope.

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nice pic
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Thanks, I stole it myself
Old 03-12-2002, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: I don't think an external wastegate is worth the added expense/complexity....

I'm sure u will have plenty of power as is, but wg does matter. My porsche 924T had oem ext wg, with long discharge pipe to exit end of cat.

The T3 wg has some history of creating turbulence at the turbine discharge. Even with ext wg, top end power was hurt in the prelude (link) due a crude/short wg pipe job, with tee joint to dp.

For integral T3, a real big dp seems to help.<ul><li><a href="http://www.f-max.com/PreludeSys.htm">T3/T4 prelude</a></li></ul>
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Default I'll be using a big dp, and removing the cat.

I have also heard that venting a WG to atmosphere causes for some really ugly fart noises from the vent. I think I'll pass
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Default ball bearings

are all steel in the Garrett 'ballistic gt series'.

Turbonetics 'ball brg upgrade' uses a bearing with ceramic ***** at the thrust end only, and sleeve brg at other end.
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no...its gonna suck his entire car inside out!!!
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