GeeT

I plan on getting 2.0T myself, but let's simply compare the facts. While 2.0T itself is plenty adequate, if one compares to 3.2, it does feel less powerful driven back to back (as a matter of fact it IS less powerful - 211hp/258lbft vs 270hp/243lbft)

3.2 has a very smooth power delivery with a nice growl, however, you will have to rev more to get all the power/torque. 2.0T has most torque in the useful RPM range (1500-4000RPM) and makes the car lighter and more frugal.

http://gallery.audiworld.com/gallery..._medium?full=1

http://gallery.audiworld.com/gallery...5080135_medium

Also, most people WILL NOT tune the engine. Tuning potential is only useful for a selected few here.

PaulW

It's hard to find a CPO in that price range.

I've been looking and looking for about 2 or 3 months now....only really want a Prestige if it is a 2010 or 2011, the cheapest I have really seen is $37 or 38K for those years, some have as low miles as 25K.

Now I've been looking at the 2012's with advance key, that's the only reason I want a Prestige from the earlier years. I have driven one 2.0T, and I like that motor. This would be for my wife, so it would be more than adequate, plus the fuel mileage is great.

I am going to look at a 2012 this weekend with 2.0T, advance key, Nav package, B&O and the guy told me $39.5K.....it has less than 10,000 miles and has an inservice date of about March 2012, so lots of warranty left on it.

I might stretch the budget for a car like this, but after I have seen the auction numbers for these cars vs. what the (mostly) dealers are asking for them, they are very expensive....very little depreciation. That's why I'm hesitant and waiting for the wholesale deal.

GeeT

PaulW. Could you elaborate a bit more on the auction numbers vs asking price? Would be beneficial to know for negotiation.

Thanks.

PaulW

Here are some recent numbers

2011 Premium Plus:

Premium plus last 30 days Manheim numbers

Regular = Somebody owned it
Lease = Lease

The next is the price it sold for, plus there is a little extra the dealer paid in fees, then the vehicle miles. Then it's the Manheim grade, when they say it was avg it is usually good, if it's above, it's almost pristine.


03/13/13 PITTSBGH Regular $28,900 54,518 Below BLACK 6G A Yes
03/14/13 PALM BCH Regular $33,800 35,437 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
03/14/13 PA Regular $34,500 44,449 Avg BLACK 6G P Yes
03/19/13 ORLANDO Regular $35,800 35,440 Above BLACK 6G A Yes
03/22/13 PA Regular $33,500 14,210 Avg BLACK 6G Yes
03/22/13 PA Regular $29,000 39,150 Below GREY 6G Yes
03/29/13 PA Regular $28,000 57,172 Below BLACK 6G A Yes
04/02/13 ORLANDO Regular $31,300 60,904 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
04/03/13 NJ Lease $34,200 22,521 Avg IBIS WHI 6G A Yes
04/03/13 NJ Lease $33,000 32,413 Avg BRILLIAN 6G A Yes
04/03/13 NJ Lease $32,800 33,125 Avg METEOR G 6G A Yes
04/03/13 NJ Lease $31,600 41,881 Avg BRILLIAN 6G A Yes
04/03/13 DALLAS Regular $31,200 54,262 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes


This is 2011 Prestige:

12/06/12 PA Regular $36,750 31,427 Avg WHITE 6G P Yes
01/03/13 PA Lease $35,300 42,733 Avg BLUE 6G P Yes
01/15/13 ORLANDO Regular $37,300 22,344 Avg BLUE 6G A Yes
01/23/13 PITTSBGH Regular $39,000 18,473 Above WHITE 6G A Yes
02/12/13 DENVER Regular $37,000 42,882 Avg BLUE 6G A Yes
04/10/13 NASHVILL Regular $36,600 39,794 Avg BLUE 6G A Yes


This is a recent "avg" report for 2012's with miles:

V6 4D SUV PREMIUM PLUS
Below $32,171 (32K miles)
Average $36,900 (21.5K miles)
Above $41, 629 (10.7K miles)

V6 4D SUV Prestige
Below $42,804 (14.8K)
Average $45,117 (9.8K)
Above $47,430 (4.9K)

4C SUV PREMIUM PLUS
Below $31,591 (31K)
Average $34,256 (20.5K)
Above $36,921 (10.3K)



2010 Numbers, Premium Plus:

04/24/13 NJ Lease $26,900 44,761 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
04/25/13 PA Regular $33,750 24,755 Above WHITE 6G A Yes
04/25/13 PA Lease $29,250 31,943 Avg PRIMARY 6G P Yes
04/25/13 PA Lease $28,800 44,580 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
04/25/13 PA Regular $28,750 41,151 Avg BLACK 6G P Yes
05/01/13 PITTSBGH Regular $23,300 73,111 Below SILVER 6G A Yes
05/01/13 DENVER Regular $28,500 47,109 Avg BLUE 6G P Yes
05/01/13 CEN FLA Lease $28,000 43,716 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
05/03/13 PA Regular $31,000 28,740 Above RED 6G P Yes
05/06/13 PA Regular $27,200 52,840 Avg GREY 6G A Yes
05/09/13 PALM BCH Regular $23,000 52,813 Below GRAY 6G A No
05/09/13 PA Regular $33,500 32,745 Above BLACK 6G A No
05/09/13 PA Regular $28,500 43,247 Avg WHITE 6G P Yes
05/09/13 PA Regular $25,900 41,273 Avg BLACK 6G P Yes
05/09/13 PA Regular $23,500 74,751 Below BLACK 6G P Yes
05/10/13 PA Regular $22,500 63,017 Below RED 6G P Yes
05/16/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $26,500 54,796 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes
05/17/13 PA Regular $28,000 34,142 Avg RED 6G P Yes
05/17/13 PA Regular $24,500 57,825 Below BLUE (DA 6G P Yes
05/17/13 FT LAUD Regular $25,600 67,826 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes
05/23/13 PA Regular $32,500 25,706 Above BLACK 6G P Yes
05/23/13 PA Regular $31,500 38,423 Above BLUE 6G A Yes
05/23/13 PA Regular $28,500 46,333 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes



2010 Prestige:

04/11/13 PA Regular $24,900 72,121 Below RED 6G P Yes
05/09/13 PA Regular $30,500 45,308 Avg BLUE 6G P Yes
05/15/13 MILWAUKE Lease $32,250 27,486 Above GRAY 6G A Yes
05/16/13 PALM BCH Regular $28,800 46,814 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes
05/17/13 PA Regular $27,250 20,045 Avg GRAPHITE 6G P No
05/23/13 PALM BCH Regular $30,000 43,596 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes

Telate

ahhh too many numbers :P

You would probably be happy with the 2.0T over the 3.2 for everyday driving. The 2.0T is only 0.1s slower to 100km/h so its not like its a slug. The turbo lag does take a little bit of getting used to. Also speeding up going uphill when the engine is only at 1500rpm...I constantly see that I'm speeding, highway driving is even worse. The car slowly goes faster and faster but the rpm never really changes so you don't too much notice until you look down. I'm coming from a 2.3L Mazda 3, so I may be a little skewed, but I've never had a car that will speed up at a decent pace at 1500rpm without bogging down.

ThunderDent

Just throwing this out there, but if you put a high-flow cat, 3" downpipe, and open the exhaust up, the turbo lag magically disappears, and your low end torque magically gets a lot more too....