Test Drove 2013 3.0t
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Haven't driven the 3.0T in the Q, but know how sweet this engine is. It's in my S5.
Only way the 3.0T Q5 could be improved on, is if it had the dual clutch S-tronic. This tranny is super fast and sweet shifting.
Only way the 3.0T Q5 could be improved on, is if it had the dual clutch S-tronic. This tranny is super fast and sweet shifting.
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I live in Reno and drive to Tahoe often. I test drove both motors up Mount Rose highway, and the 2.0 was OK but in the end I felt like the 3.0 was a steal at only $2K more.
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When did you order your Q5?
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But saw a smile face of my wife a month ago when we test drive a X5 and I think she made her mind.
My strategy take a back to back 2 test drives and see if 3.0T is really deal beaker.
Regarding electric steering has no feel whatsoever - my words exactly after test drive 535.
My strategy take a back to back 2 test drives and see if 3.0T is really deal beaker.
Regarding electric steering has no feel whatsoever - my words exactly after test drive 535.
I love our 3.2 motor-in fact, when I got 2.0T loaner, my wife said:"I want my Q5 back, I don't like this one" (2.0T). When I asked "why". she replied: "It does not feel the same, it does not pull, it's noisy". The wife had no idea that the loaner had 4-cyl. motor...
I also like the 6-speed better then 8-speed, esp. w/ 3.2 motor.
I don't even know why have 8-speeds-too much gear shifting/hunting=increased wear/less reliable.
So far no carbon build up issues after 30K miles, 95% city driving...
And I can use mid-grade gas in 3.2L-try that in 4-cyl. turbo...
I also like the 6-speed better then 8-speed, esp. w/ 3.2 motor.
I don't even know why have 8-speeds-too much gear shifting/hunting=increased wear/less reliable.
So far no carbon build up issues after 30K miles, 95% city driving...
And I can use mid-grade gas in 3.2L-try that in 4-cyl. turbo...
In mid-January, I test drove the Q5 2.0T and 3.0T back-to-back, on two consecutive weekends, for 45 minutes each on various roads: freeway, highway passing, steep grades, curves, and city streets. Having done research and decided on this car, I wanted to convince myself which one to buy. The 2.0T seemed to have enough power in the city and on the level roads, but when asked for guts on the grades and in passing, it sure gets noisy and thrashy. Living in the mountains of Colorado, I decided on the 3.0T for the long mountain grades and our typical road trips in the west. The 3.0T did feel a little heavier in the nose on curves, but I could keep it directed and level with a little throttle. I'm a pretty sane driver, but I do like to toss a car around at times, and the EM steering is not a negative for me; it does what I ask. Otherwise the sheer smoothness and quiet of the 3.0T at all RPMs made it a sweet choice. It never felt strained, and pulling from a stop was effortless. As for the 8-speed tranny, it'll be in manual mode except on straights and flats. It makes driving fun, and helps the mpg. My wife loves it too, and she'll drive it a lot. Decision made, 3.0T P+ on order.
Recently I went skiing in the 2.0t, full load, 5 people, roof racks with 4 skis. Got an average of 19.5-20mpg. Did the same trip in my 3.2 and got 21.5mpg. I think the 2.0t when under boost (heavy loads) it gets garbage mileage, especially on the highway. I really suggest to go with the 3.0t if you're doing a lot of highway especially mountain driving.
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My biggest complaint is the steering. The electric steering has no feel whatsoever. It is complete garbage, The A6 was the same way too. I hate it. On highway speeds it feels so light. When turning it feels artificial. It gives no road feedback. No feedback with the car. It is horrendous.
Might be worth looking into if you do decide to get the 3.0T.
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"I don't realize why so many people love the 2.0t over the 3.2. Now with the 3.0t there is a much bigger more defined gap. At first I did not like 8 speeds but with a powerful engine they are really nice when they dont need to downshift much. My biggest issue is when you're in 8th gear, you have to drop 3 gears to get good power. I wish it would go for 8 to 6 or 5 when you go into manual mode."
These are very close ratio transmissions. The change from 8-7 is minimal at best, feels more like a double overdrive. Even 8-6 is not really noticeable. Not like your old 4-5 speeds, where a gear change would jerk the car.
The goal of downshifting is to keep the engine in its optimal RPM range for the power you need. With smaller, higher tuned engines (especially turbos), you need to be up there in the RPMs.
Larger motors can pull power torque from a wider range of RPMS, hence less of a need for a 7-8 speed.
I do agree, I wish I could shift from 8-5 using the tiptronic, but as with any of these systems, it's just not possible (that I know of). Still, the Audi's levers are very fast clicks, much quicker than the floor shifter.
These are very close ratio transmissions. The change from 8-7 is minimal at best, feels more like a double overdrive. Even 8-6 is not really noticeable. Not like your old 4-5 speeds, where a gear change would jerk the car.
The goal of downshifting is to keep the engine in its optimal RPM range for the power you need. With smaller, higher tuned engines (especially turbos), you need to be up there in the RPMs.
Larger motors can pull power torque from a wider range of RPMS, hence less of a need for a 7-8 speed.
I do agree, I wish I could shift from 8-5 using the tiptronic, but as with any of these systems, it's just not possible (that I know of). Still, the Audi's levers are very fast clicks, much quicker than the floor shifter.
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It all depends on the tuning and where they want the power ...
high rpm hp or low rpm torque...
my 'other car' has 800 lbft available @ 1600 rpms, which makes for very little 'drama' at high rpm, but lot's of PUSH at lower rpms..
and to the point of '2.0T love' - it may be other factors.
They offer all kinds of colors in everything -
individuals can get what THEY want, not what they are told they SHOULD want![Smile](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The Q is the wife's car and to her "function follows form",
it is an appliance to her, just has to look good
(a Keurig versus a Mr. Coffee if you will!)
so the styling is what she liked and just so long as it gets her to the office and she doesn't have to stop every other day for fuel, she's good !
given that it's her girlie commuter - the 8 speed and mpg is why I got the Q and 2.ohT in 2011, an early adopter if you will since it wasn't offered with the other engine.
so enjoy what you have and don't have TOO much disdain for us lesser drivers...
maybe our other car makes up for the size difference
high rpm hp or low rpm torque...
my 'other car' has 800 lbft available @ 1600 rpms, which makes for very little 'drama' at high rpm, but lot's of PUSH at lower rpms..
and to the point of '2.0T love' - it may be other factors.
They offer all kinds of colors in everything -
individuals can get what THEY want, not what they are told they SHOULD want
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The Q is the wife's car and to her "function follows form",
it is an appliance to her, just has to look good
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so the styling is what she liked and just so long as it gets her to the office and she doesn't have to stop every other day for fuel, she's good !
given that it's her girlie commuter - the 8 speed and mpg is why I got the Q and 2.ohT in 2011, an early adopter if you will since it wasn't offered with the other engine.
so enjoy what you have and don't have TOO much disdain for us lesser drivers...
maybe our other car makes up for the size difference
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As an example..
which dyno below is better ?
Hint, it depends...
on what you are trying to do with the tool:
In my application the higher and longer (duration) of the torque curve is better whereas someone else may be more interested in the small window where peak is higher...
neither is wrong, just what you intend to do...
in everyday driving more 'under the curve' is my favorite...
which dyno below is better ?
Hint, it depends...
on what you are trying to do with the tool:
In my application the higher and longer (duration) of the torque curve is better whereas someone else may be more interested in the small window where peak is higher...
neither is wrong, just what you intend to do...
in everyday driving more 'under the curve' is my favorite...
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