apoelistas

This TPI is stage 2 of oil consumption fix. Engine oil consumption too high after completing TPI 2024604 - 2.0l TFSI (EA888) (TPI 2024604 is stage 1).
TPI = technical product information. This is what audi names the Technical Service Bulletin. It must be a better name in order to avoid legal trouble. In the court if it is not clear enough or ambiguous, the client usually wins, I believe.

There is also stage 3 which is engine block replacement. (if piston cylinder walls are damaged, thus stage 2 is not advisable.)

Vma67720

Makes sense, Thanks! So part 1 and 2 of the test was performed and the dealership stated the car did fail. They didn't tell me the exact fix or what they would be doing; just that I would be responsible for 25% of the repair and it's about a 20-25 hour job.

apoelistas

Stage 1: PCV change to revised version, revised engine software, revised crank seal (a couple of hours)
Stage 2: Replace all Conrods and all pistons. (I dont know the man hours).
Stage 3: Replace Engine block (I dont know the man hours)
Good luck.

Rltrdc

Not trying to jinx myself here, found myself back on these forums making sure I had the right coolant to top off with, but as an update to this old thread I bought a 2015 Q5 3.0T Prestige with 57k miles from Carvana on 7/14/2018 and currently just rolled 132k miles and have not had to make a single non-maintenance repair yet, and I don't even take it to the dealer for the detailed inspection 1 and inspection 2. I take it to my guy for an oil and filter change every 10k using Mobile 5w-30 European Car full synthetic formula.. other than that I've done tires (just did my 2nd set at 131k), brakes & rotors (full 1x, and rear 1x also at 131k), and ignition coils I believe, wiper blades, coolant flush, and an angel eye headlamp are all I can think of.. wow this car is really impressive. I know that I got my X3 at 70k miles not 57k mi and by 132k I had done at least 3 or 4 repairs.. good choice here! Luckily I've been driving a lot less if I was still on my old pace I would have been at/above 160k miles by now.

No complaints here I love this car! Actually I take that back the only complaint I have is I bought the 3.0T Prestige almost exclusively for the ventilated seats, otherwise I would have gone Premium Plus for better MPG and lower cost, and they are weak AF.. my first experience with ventilated seats was in some Ford Expedition I rented one day while my X3 was in the shop and that thing felt like it was blowing AC up my bum which was awesome.. was hoping for that but no it's just basically about 10% of the air flow that was in that Ford.. has that changed at all in recent model years? I was thinking about maybe my next car might be a Q5 or Q7 in the 2020-2021 ballpark in a couple years once this hits 160-170k and I get at least some wear out of the tires I just put on.

I actually had ordered a Model Y in Feb but when it came time for delivery in October I just decided this Audi is too good to replace just yet so I told them to keep my $250 reservation fee.. and I hear they are repair nightmares around the same time the warranty expires they just start falling to pieces.

Norskie

Thanks for the great update! I only have 92k on my 3.0T and while my eye is wandering, I haven't yet found anything worth trading it for. I did add a summer car to the stable so that should help keep the miles off of my SQ5.

The Q7's and B9 Q5's are typical Audi products and thus also suffer from higher repair costs out of warranty. I don't know if it has anything with moving production to Mexico or dropping the supercharger in favor of turbo' (or fake exhaust pipes for that matter....). Maybe the right answer is to find a lower mileage B8.5 Q5/SQ5?

S4'ed

Rltrdc: You should be using Mobil-1 0W-40 Euro formula oil.

silver_tt

With the Mobil-1 product it's not really much different. The 0W-40 is 12.9 cSt which is just barely a 40 grade (12.6 and higher is a 40 grade) plus the fact that it shears down so fast it's really a 30 grade oil.

They are basically saying the same thing at time 1:00 here:

S4'ed

OK, but the 0W-40 is what VW/Audi specifies for this engine.
It is still a higher viscosity than 5W-30, which falls within the 100C cst range of 9.3 to 12.49.
The 100C cst range of a 40-weight oil is 12.5 to 16.29.

A6Gary

The Mobil 1 0W-40 oil is ONE of the oils that conforms to the recommended VW standard that Audi specifies. But it is isn't the only oi that meets the standard that can be utilized in the Audi engines.

silver_tt

S4, I agree with you that 0W-40 is better from a wear perspective due to the higher viscosity but I believe 5W-30 is still an approved oil. Your gas mileage will be slightly worse running the 40 grade but the protection will be better. Also agree with A6Gary that M1 is just one of many on the approved oils list.

M1 0W-40 is a very poor oil, even if it is PAO ester blend. Tribological journals and a database of oil analysis have shown that there are better oils than any OEMs so-called "specification". I am running an oil that is not VW 502.00 but has a ~ 14.0 cSt viscocity @ 100C ... It is doing its job very well: At 110K miles my engine consumes no oil, my magnetic oil drain plug never catches anything, and oil analysis shows almost zero wear. I did my spark plugs this morning and they look great with 30K+ miles on them. This engine will effortlessly do high mileage if you use a high quality oil and change it often. The good news is it's very easy to do and it only takes ~5 quarts.......