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Old 06-04-2023, 01:53 PM
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Hi All-recentky picked up a 2017 Prestige w/ Air Suspension. My first Audi ever. It didn't come with factory tow package so got local installer (recommended by Audi dealership) to install Stealth Hitch package

https://stealthhitches.com/products/audi-hitch-shr30015?rq=yr_2017~mk_audi~md_q7

Question-can my setup really tow 7700 lbs w/ 770 lbs tongue weight? Note the distance b/w ball joint and receiver (10 inches vs 6.19 as recommended by manual)

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Given the further distance you have between the ball and the hitch, the amount of torque it puts on the mounting bolts of the hitch will be significantly more. I would try to use a much shorter ball mount and even then will de-rate the tongue weight by how much you are more than the factory spec's.
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Do you have the tow module and 7 pin connector?

If not...use OEM, don't go aftermarket (ie cutting wires). The module sets other parameters when it senses a trailer is plugged in.

Also, you'll need an electronic brake controller for any larger trailer...
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Originally Posted by urs6_ma
Do you have the tow module and 7 pin connector?

If not...use OEM, don't go aftermarket (ie cutting wires). The module sets other parameters when it senses a trailer is plugged in.

Also, you'll need an electronic brake controller for any larger trailer...
I do have 7 pin connector. But not sure about tow module!
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Originally Posted by urs6_ma
Do you have the tow module and 7 pin connector?

If not...use OEM, don't go aftermarket (ie cutting wires). The module sets other parameters when it senses a trailer is plugged in.

Also, you'll need an electronic brake controller for any larger trailer...
I do have a choice of buying a shorter version - https://stealthhitches.com/products/ball-mount-u5s

Not sure about the exact specs though. The original package came with longer version of the ball mount.
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That 6.193" dimension is effing absurd. It puts the tongue of the trailer damn near touching the rear valence. Beyond that, I'm not even certain that the Curt branded hitch Audi sold from the dealership met the spec. It's quite unrealistic with any currently reasonably available equipment.

If you want to play it safe, then reduce the tongue weight by ratio of the length of your hitch to the max recommended length.......Say you have a 10.00" dimension on your hitch, Max rated it 6.193". Reduce your load by 6.193/10.00 = 61.9% of rated load or 433.5lbf rated load on the ball. Your dimensions of course will vary, but the math should hold to keep you safe. Please do a personal risk assessment before pulling anything.

I towed near the limit (~7,500lbs) with this setup and didn't have any issues. Borrowed the adjustable hitch from a friend, ran a 2-5/16 ball, and rented the car trailer. I used a Curt Bluetooth controlled brake controller, and had a safe and largely enjoyable tow. Was about 700 mile round trip, trailer was empty on the way there, and loaded with the pickup on the way home. Never had any sway, stopping, or power issues along the way. Q7 handled the load with aplomb.



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Originally Posted by mukul2017
I do have 7 pin connector. But not sure about tow module!
That seven pin connected must be attached to something.

Sounds like all you need *might* be a brake controller... Some people use wired versions (on the older Q7, the connector is under the dash), while others use a bluetooth connection, no wiring necessary...
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Originally Posted by urs6_ma
That seven pin connected must be attached to something.

Sounds like all you need *might* be a brake controller... Some people use wired versions (on the older Q7, the connector is under the dash), while others use a bluetooth connection, no wiring necessary...
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This is the setup of stealth hitch...
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Originally Posted by 2kwik4u
That 6.193" dimension is effing absurd. It puts the tongue of the trailer damn near touching the rear valence. Beyond that, I'm not even certain that the Curt branded hitch Audi sold from the dealership met the spec. It's quite unrealistic with any currently reasonably available equipment.

If you want to play it safe, then reduce the tongue weight by ratio of the length of your hitch to the max recommended length.......Say you have a 10.00" dimension on your hitch, Max rated it 6.193". Reduce your load by 6.193/10.00 = 61.9% of rated load or 433.5lbf rated load on the ball. Your dimensions of course will vary, but the math should hold to keep you safe. Please do a personal risk assessment before pulling anything.

I towed near the limit (~7,500lbs) with this setup and didn't have any issues. Borrowed the adjustable hitch from a friend, ran a 2-5/16 ball, and rented the car trailer. I used a Curt Bluetooth controlled brake controller, and had a safe and largely enjoyable tow. Was about 700 mile round trip, trailer was empty on the way there, and loaded with the pickup on the way home. Never had any sway, stopping, or power issues along the way. Q7 handled the load with aplomb.


spoke in length with stealth hitch guys today. They confirmed it is absolutely safe to tow 7700 lbs w/ 770 lbs tongue weight despite the length of ball mount being 10 inches. (Vs. Audi recommended 6.19 inches)

Now question is do I test it
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I love the design of the Stealth Hitch. While our Q7 came with the OEM setup, the Cayenne did not. I thought about the Stealth Hitch setup, but then decided to go OEM (actually another Q7 hitch, but the parts are identical). I don't mind the look of a receiver on the back of an SUV, even a Porsche.



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