Glisse

You are correct. If you want to curb kerb weight (😂 ), cut out the heavy options. But Audi of America (I doubt Audi AG are thrilled) don't give you much choice, because they include so much equipment as standard. I would never buy an RS model with a massive sunroof, but AoA clearly believe no car can be sold in the US market without one. And to be fair to them, the number of people here that complain about weight are unicorns, whilst those that complain about features not being included for "free" are like locusts.

The assertion made by the earlier poster that the C8 models are significantly heavier than their competitors is wrong:

• The Porsche Panamera Turbo S Sport Turismo weighs 2135kg.
• The RS7 weighs 2065kg.
• The RS6 weighs 2075kg.
• The BMW M8 Gran Coupé weighs 1995kg.
• Mercedes-AMG E63 S T model weighs 2000kg.

These are their base certified factory weights, on latest production versions. The figure is based on 90% fuelled, but no driver allowance (75kg). These numbers represent the core engineering of the model, before being slathered in options. It is in this spec that the factory provides performance data.

Also of note is that the Panamera comes with CCB at base spec, everywhere AFAIK. And the Panamera is on the MSB platform, not MLB Evo, and uses a hang-on clutch AWD system, and a ZF dual clutch transmission rather than a ZF torque converter. The only thing the Panamera and C8 RS models share is the engine, and they are tuned differently.

To reference the OP's query, the M8 CG has a lower payload than the others. Four heavy guys in the car, and you're at the limit. Not even a toothbrush in the trunk. Mind you, the M8 is a poorly packaged car given its external dimensions and weight. So you probably can't fit that much in it anyway.

All these cars are heavy. But at least they have a lower centre of gravity than their even heavier SUV equivalents, although most buyers around the globe seem not to care. Pity.

IamRacerX

Did any of you guys notice the curb weight listed in the Car and Driver test of the RS6 Avant? 5031lbs!!!!! C&D sang high praises of the car. But that weight is crazy.

Audis or VWs 4Life

I guess at the end of the day is how different is the RS6 from the Panamera Sport Turismo??

frisbee44

This debate is very enlightening, but given the price of the vehicle and the weight, the real question to US car buyers is whether we can classify an Avant / Sport Turismo / Euro Wagon designation jargon du jour as a “work vehicle.”

This would place it under the auspices of the protections for pickup trucks and SUV’s under the IRS code.

So, if it is a “work vehicle” under IRS code, and it has a “gross vehicle weight” over 6000 pounds, then:

my business is buying it, and I am depreciating it immediately.

and that is a tremendous tax savings. 😁