Comparing B6 S4 to B7 S4 with thoughts on R32 and a few others....
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Wow, what a difference. The B7 is a huge improvement over the B6. All of the parts of his B6 that were rough/crude, they polished up.
The most noticable differences are the suspension, being very compliant and much more daily driver friendly than the B6. It still had harsh impacts over large bumps, but the overall feel is a great deal better. The B6 was too stiff for the handling it gave, and bounced too much over repetitive bumps. The B7 felt much smoother.
B6=6.5/10
B7=8.5/10
Another difference is the steering effort/feel. The B6 steering effort is very high at all speeds, not a good thing for a daily driver. The B7 was great, much more assist, and made the car feel 500lbs lighter, felt like it had better turn in also. It is amazing how the effort of the steering makes the car feel so heavy on the B6.
B6=7/10
B7=8.75/10 lol
The third and least noticable was the clutch feel/stiffness. The B6 has a very on/off clutch stiffness. Very light when first pressed, and then firms up closer to the friction point. This teamed with the iffy DBW made it not the easiest car to drive smooth every day. The B7 had a constant, consistant pressure feel. It made the DBW much easier to deal with. I imagine the B7 with a chip to deal with DBW would be a dream to operate every day.
B6=5/10
B7=7.5/10
Overall I loved the B7. It looked just as good, a little newer looking. I have put many miles on my dad's B6 and have loved it, but the above issues made me wonder how people could live with this car as their only car. The B7 is an amazing difference. There is no doubt in my mind that this is far superior to anything in its class. Also, the updates from the B6 made it feel like a car I could drive for 100k miles and not think twice about. My dad also felt that it was a great update.
B6=8/10
B7=9.25/10
We also drove another MKV R32, which is #1 on my dad's list to replace the S4 with. Selling at invoice at about $32,300 it will be $5,500 cheaper than the 20k CPO S4 sedan we drove. $39,900 which we could get for at least 38k. #1 on my list for him is a CPO 2006 2.0T Quattro 6 speed Sline A4 2.0T, which would be chipped with a test pipe and exhaust giving a total of about $27,500. He is also considering a 2007 loaded GTI DSG for the low end of about $22k.
The most noticable differences are the suspension, being very compliant and much more daily driver friendly than the B6. It still had harsh impacts over large bumps, but the overall feel is a great deal better. The B6 was too stiff for the handling it gave, and bounced too much over repetitive bumps. The B7 felt much smoother.
B6=6.5/10
B7=8.5/10
Another difference is the steering effort/feel. The B6 steering effort is very high at all speeds, not a good thing for a daily driver. The B7 was great, much more assist, and made the car feel 500lbs lighter, felt like it had better turn in also. It is amazing how the effort of the steering makes the car feel so heavy on the B6.
B6=7/10
B7=8.75/10 lol
The third and least noticable was the clutch feel/stiffness. The B6 has a very on/off clutch stiffness. Very light when first pressed, and then firms up closer to the friction point. This teamed with the iffy DBW made it not the easiest car to drive smooth every day. The B7 had a constant, consistant pressure feel. It made the DBW much easier to deal with. I imagine the B7 with a chip to deal with DBW would be a dream to operate every day.
B6=5/10
B7=7.5/10
Overall I loved the B7. It looked just as good, a little newer looking. I have put many miles on my dad's B6 and have loved it, but the above issues made me wonder how people could live with this car as their only car. The B7 is an amazing difference. There is no doubt in my mind that this is far superior to anything in its class. Also, the updates from the B6 made it feel like a car I could drive for 100k miles and not think twice about. My dad also felt that it was a great update.
B6=8/10
B7=9.25/10
We also drove another MKV R32, which is #1 on my dad's list to replace the S4 with. Selling at invoice at about $32,300 it will be $5,500 cheaper than the 20k CPO S4 sedan we drove. $39,900 which we could get for at least 38k. #1 on my list for him is a CPO 2006 2.0T Quattro 6 speed Sline A4 2.0T, which would be chipped with a test pipe and exhaust giving a total of about $27,500. He is also considering a 2007 loaded GTI DSG for the low end of about $22k.
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lol!!
You sound like a friggin wimp: steering effort too much...waaaaaaaaaaaa..suspension too stifff....waaaaaaaaaaa
Go buy a friggin taurus...lol
You sound like a friggin wimp: steering effort too much...waaaaaaaaaaaa..suspension too stifff....waaaaaaaaaaa
Go buy a friggin taurus...lol
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You would expect each new model to be an improvement; so the comments make sense. I just drove an S5 demo car. It is nicer than our '06 S4. Smoother, more refined. Just as you would suspect.
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probably a pissed off B6er, feeling that he is inferior because a material object which he does not own has been deemed "better" than that material object which he owns...
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Thanks for being such a dick. My dad got a B5 in Dec 00, modded to stage 2, I did all of the research. Then in late 04, he bought the B6. I definetly want my dad to get the B7 S4 to replace his B6 S4, but he doesnt want to spend 40k on a car again.
Damn, this forum was alot better a year ago.
I too have been on the B7 A4 forum for 2 years when I had my A4.
Your car is bad *** though, too bad you arent too.
Damn, this forum was alot better a year ago.
I too have been on the B7 A4 forum for 2 years when I had my A4.
Your car is bad *** though, too bad you arent too.
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the nature of your post.
It wasn't the nicest response to his research and opinion.
Being that there are trollers and posters with fake user id's you should probably understand my approach (since you are clearly an Audiworld veteran).
Sorry that I wrongly accused you. It was meant only to filter out the geniune from the not so genuine.
I hope you accept my apology. I am not an ill-willed person.
It wasn't the nicest response to his research and opinion.
Being that there are trollers and posters with fake user id's you should probably understand my approach (since you are clearly an Audiworld veteran).
Sorry that I wrongly accused you. It was meant only to filter out the geniune from the not so genuine.
I hope you accept my apology. I am not an ill-willed person.
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I accept your apology. It is not a big deal. I just thought that my post was a whole hearted support of the B7, not a knock in any way. I was shocked at the upgrades, changes that the B7 had over the B6. I got alot of flack for them being 99% the same, but the two vehicles I drove back to back were very different. I know the actual design is the same of the suspension and so forth, but the spring rates/shock dampening were clearly different.
I like the more modern look of the B7 compared to the B6, and because of the upgrades I noticed, the B7 will be in the running for my next car for sure.
Your car is bad *** btw. love sprint. I imagine your car is a blast to drive compared to a stock S4.
I like the more modern look of the B7 compared to the B6, and because of the upgrades I noticed, the B7 will be in the running for my next car for sure.
Your car is bad *** btw. love sprint. I imagine your car is a blast to drive compared to a stock S4.