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Old 09-22-2003, 06:47 PM
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Default Heel and toe in the s4....Alan por favor :D

Hey, so I remember your pics of the ball of your foot being on the brake and the edge on the accelerator, but I noticed today that there is quite a distance between the accelerator and the brake, in depth I mean. The accelerator is farther back, so it would actually be more of a real "heel" and toe exercise.

Have you done this in your b6 yet? Are you doing it your way or have you had to adjust your foot for this pedal setup?

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Default Well - I do need to point out that I have a shoe size of 10 1/2 EEEE which makes this pretty easy.

I am aware that lots of folks have a little trouble with the distance between the throttle and the brake, but given the width of my feet it is an easier task than most might experience. That photo is of my feet over the pedals of my old B5 S4 which are almost identical to the distances in our B6's.

I was practicing getting used to doing heel and toe on the way home from the dealer and pretty much had it down pat by the time I got home.

This is why you really want to figure out how you are going to get your feet to do this while not trying to go fast out on a track........
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That's great! I'm 11 EEEE. Good to know there are others!
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Default Re: Well - I do need to point out that I have a shoe size of 10 1/2 EEEE which makes this pretty eas

Ya of course (about knowing what's up before the track).

My feet aren't that wide, same size though. I'll need to just practice I guess.
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Default I brake with my heel and blip with my toes...

Normally with heel/toe it's the other way around, but in my B5 A4, the pedals aren't set up well for that, plus the tunnel is in the way of rotating correctly.
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Default Move your foot all the way to the right side of the brake pedal...

...it'll make it a bit easier, too. If you look at the pedal of my car, you can clearly tell that I only use a portion of it. It will take a bit of getting used to, but pratice, practice, practice!! This is clearly not something you'll pick up in a day or two.

Also, some shoes are easier than other to do this with, but when you get good (and you will), you'll be able to do it with any shoes. In the mean time, start with a shoe that has a very thin sole, if possible. And practice with EVERY single downshift.

Good luck!
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Default I have had to use that technique on a couple of trucks and vans I have owned.

I once had a mid 60's VW microbus (over 30 years ago) that required that method because the pedals were waaay far apart. I also found it necessary on a Bronco I had right after that.

The bottom line - pick a method you can adapt to and then perfect using that technique until it is second nature. There is no such thing as practicing too much......
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Default the necessary footwear

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Not an option for those of us with wide feet. Too bad New Balance doesn't make racing shoes.
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Default Well, I have a pair of Piloti shoes and I don't agree.

Don't get my wrong..they are not bad. But to me, there are more of a compromise. They aren't strictly a driving shoe with a bit thicker of a sole than I personally (key word) prefer. There are also a bit more suitable for walking around because of this, but it is in this regard that I feel they are trying to do 2 things, but do neither very well. Just my opinion.

I don't even wear them at the track, I just use them as casual shoes now (and they don't breath too well so they can make your feet kind of stinky). For the track, I have a pair of Nike wrestling shoes which are absolutley awesome. They work great because they have a very thin sole that allows you to really get a feel for the pedals. I love them. Thing is, if you walk around the paddock too much, the thin soles wear out quickly. Also, the Nike's are not fireproof and the Piloti's are...it may make a difference to you depending on your club/track requirements.

Many people like running shoes, but I find that the heel is too thick. To each his own.

My 2 cents...


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