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Old 11-12-2003, 11:31 AM
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Default Is it possible to change quattro's dynamics for rear bias....

like the 911 C4? It could be a worthwhile mod to partially adapt for the S4 front weight bias. Never heard of such a thing with Audi's so it may not be possible due to the differential type.

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Default Technically it is possible.

It has to do with the gear ratios in the Torsen center diff. The LeMans quattro concept car has a 40-60 rear bias with the Torsen diff.
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Default You can also tweak your tire pressure

or change tire sizes.

I'm not joking. I know it sounds silly, but you can change the force that the wheels give as input to the torsen, and it has the same effect.

tweaking pressure is not the long term fix, but it can give you a feel for it. You are basically reducing the traction of one end of the car, which obviously you don't want to do in the long run.

But then you get wider tires for the opposite end of the car, and you are increasing *it's* traction. And it's likelyhood of hydroplaning, so nothing's perfect.

Either way, you're not going to be able to adjust it on the fly. I think the porsche has a computer controled clutch, that's why it can be adjusted on the fly, you're just tuning the program.

You could theoretically do *that* with our ESP or even EDL.
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Default yeah. get on a skid pad and play around with tire pressure.

it really lets you know how much a difference in tire pressure can make as far as the car pushing or getting loose around the skidpad.
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Default Talk to the folks at STaSIS Engineering. They have played with this a lot for race cars and Josh

Decker has a form of their altered Torsen differential in his car.
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Default Yes - it involves a washer - post question to ColoradoMark on the

Rocky Mts forum - he knows how to do it -
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Default The problem with that higher bias torsen is

that the more you split it, the more violent the torque shift is. This can present problems on high speed cornering when 62% of the torqe is sent to the opposite axle. UGLY.
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Default Thanks for the replies - was more a curiosity. I love my car

and don't plan to mod extensively, but do sometimes miss the feel of my old RWD Porsche 968.

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PS - first snow on the way and I haven't order winter wheels/tires yet. Time to get on it...winter has hit Rochester,NY!
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Default yes, I stand corrected

wider tires don't give you "more" traction, they bias the traction you have towards lateral, and away from longitudinal.

mm, what's your email address?
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The maximum difference allowed is 3% not to damage the Torsen.


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