primetime

The only reason there is a "$hitstorm" as you call it is because you and bpp came on all the forums and raved about the tune yet won't share any REAL data... If Mark is confident in his tune and the results why would he care if you shared data logs? I offered to send my vagcom cable and walk bpp through how to take logs, but no dice... I also offered to paypal him the funds to take it to the strip, I know I know, he is a road racer not a drag racer... Heaven forbid he try it... Again if Mark is confident he would want bpp to take the car to the strip and post the results... Do you think my posts on visiting the strip hurt APR's sales?

Also, before you start throwing stones at me keep in mind I took my car to the dragstrip the very first day it was tuned... Guess what the tune didn't work... Did I hide that from the forums? No I came on here and said something isn't right with the tune, for all to see... APR realized they didn't flash it correctly and corrected that at their cost... I also was the first person to publicly point out that APR's tuned screwed up the shifting of my car after the pulley install, didn't hide it from anyone... Again, APR admitted the issue and corrected it at their cost... So please don't label me as some "disciple", when in reality I have been one of their biggest critics... I run their tune because it works, is safe, and they have superior customer service in comparison to all the other tuners...

Berate Saki all you want but the fact is he is right... Sometimes the truth hurts...

SkidroweS4

Some of the issue also stems from the fact that we're all enthusiasts and are excited to see a new player enter the game. We get all excited, come knocking on the door of the one person who can provide data (I love data) on the new tune so we can compare and contrast it against existing data for other tunes, and that person slams the door in our face saying it's none of our business.

We all take the numbers reported by a company selling a tune with a grain of salt since it's coming from a biased source. That's why we want data from other enthusiasts via logs and track times. The moment another person tells us that they have an ASP tune, we'll probably hound them for data and logs too.

Be a member of the community and let's work together to check out how this latest tune is accomplishing great things on our cars.

-Skid

DrGP

You do realise it is NOT my car. What bpp and Mark decide to do is entirely up to them, not me. If it were my car, I would have probably done differently. Since I'm Not a racer, I doubt I would have taken it to the drag strip. But I agree that I would have liked more documentation. Hopefully it will come soon.

sakimano

Good to see you still have ZERO to add to any discussion. Still hoping to rally the boys against me and paint me as a B8 hater, huh? Sorry Lou, doesn't work.

Don't forget I had a B8 long before you. Nice try.

rktskicar

this is correct.

Bruce

rktskicar

lol Saki, just stirring up the pot. B8 S4 tunes are not much different from each other.... you would know this if you had a brain...

Bruce

sakimano

Excuse me?

I an pointing out an obvious crock of sh¡T that you and your asp loving friends are eating with big spoons, and you are saying I don't have a brain? Are you saying that all the tunes are so similar (this is entirely untrue by the way) we should treat all tunes the same no matter what they advertise, or how many engines they blow?

you prize yourself on being an engineer and announce it every five minutes (as if that is supposed to be impressive or absolves you from being wrong) yet rather than address the facts like an engineer, instead you ignore the questions about the obvious flaws in this company's current and past offerings, and instead hurl insults and Lols. Some engineer you are.

Classy Bruce.

rktskicar

good try Saki, C+

primetime

Bruce, this is simply not true... I have reviewed many logs from the various tuners(apr,revo,giac)' and can assure you they are noticeably different, especially revo... I wouldn't run their tune if you paid me as it is way to aggressive and removes some of the safeguards...