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Old 12-05-2012, 08:06 AM
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I finally got my Beltronics STi Magnum Radar Detector installed this week and I just wanted to post some photos of it. It is important since I live in VA to make sure that 1. I had a radar detector that was virtually "undetectable" to radar detector scanners that police have and 2. Make sure it isn't easily visible. The only way to do this is to hard wire it into the car. In order to hide it I had it mounted up on my driver's side sun visor with a cheap visor clip. Here it is hidden for the most part by the tint strip at the top of the windshield and also hidden from the side by the front pillar of the car. The last part was having the mute/control button mounted in the front ashtray so that it was out of the way and easy to reach if I needed it. I love having this thing and can't imagine why I didn't have it before. Northern VA has tons of police officers that love to be very sneaky, so I put it to great use here. All in for the radar detector was about $450, the install was more expensive than I had anticipated here in Tysons Corner, it was $200. wI figured I just had to bite the bullet on the install because I didn't want to wire it myself. Here are some picture of the install, enjoy!

First picture is mounting location, second is mute/control button, third is outside picture with light on inside the car, last is picture in daylight.
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Nice install but why didn't you get a V1? On anther point, I understand that in VA, they confiscate the detector if they stop you and find it. What I do on my infrequent trips through VA, is to take along an old "beater" radar detector to give up if I am stopped. I hide the V1 under the seatand put the old detector in sight. But, so far it has not happened. You obviously are at a higher risk
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According to a bunch of places I looked when researching radar detectors, the only two radar detectors that are actually invisible to radar detector scanners are the Escort Redline and the Beltronics STi Magnum, which is why I didn't go with the V1. Turns out that both of them are identical so I just decided to go with the Beltronics one. Beltronics is the favorite of Truck drivers that pass through VA/DC so I figured they probably have the most experience with it. Also, I didn't go with a fully remote one integrated into my grill because it was just too pricey ($1600+)

You are correct however that they will confiscate your detector if they find it which is why I have to be much more careful with not only install, but also when I run it. For instance I don't run it in the mornings on Rt 66 on the way to work because first I'm basically sitting in traffic anyway and second police officers like to sit on the on ramps to check inspections making it much easier for them to see something like a detector sitting on my visor.
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They can try to take mine. They will lose. The radar detector is essentially an FM transceiver. I have a first class rf operator's license. This gives me federal authority to operate FM transmitters within a certain bandwidth. A radar detector is in that bandwidth. Federal law supersedes state law. Also, a police officer operating a radar gun without the same license is violating federal law. I had a friend at the DC Branch site a trooper for it. Its a $1,500 fine. Talk about poetic justice. The judge argued that he had a certificate showing he was trained in its use and calibration. The FCC officer pointed out that it was not an FCC issued license and he lost.
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I'm not even American but it interested me enough to research it. Found this: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-96-2040A1.txt

Released: December 9,1996 FCC REGULATES RADAR TRANSMITTERS, BUT NOT RADAR DETECTORS The FCC continues to receive many inquiries about regulations governing police radar, radar detectors, and other radar devices used to measure the speed of an object. This Notice explains the scope of FCC regulation over these devices. It updates and supersedes the Public Notice on the same subject dated August 1, 1985. Radar units are transceivers, i.e. they both transmit and receive a signal, and operate under rules for the Radiolocation Service contained in Part 90 of the FCC's Rules. As such, they are type-accepted and authorized by the FCC under Parts 2 and 90 of the FCC's Rules. Part 90 specifies the frequencies and technical standards for radar units, but does not address how radar units are to be operated as devices to measure an object's speed. Also, the FCC Rules do not contain provisions concerning the calibration of radar units, the reliability of the readings, or operator capability requirements. Radar units are used by police and other public safety agencies to measure vehicle speeds. Under Part 90 of the rules, licensees in the Public Safety Radio Services (such as state or local government entities), that already have a FCC license for a radio communications system, may operate radar units without obtaining a separate license for them. Radar units may also be used under Part 90 by non-public safety entities such as professional baseball teams, tennis clubs, automobile and boat racing organizations, private transportation firms, railroads, etc., to measure the speed of objects or vehicles. Non-public safety users, however, are required to obtain a Part 90 license from the Commission for use of radar units. Additionally, many public safety agencies also operate unattended, low-power, transmit-only radar units under Part 15 of the FCC's Rules. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is the federal agency concerned with the enforcement of highway speed limits and with the operation of unattended, drone police radars as enforcement tools. Information on NHTSA regulations concerning high- power drone radar use can be obtained from the Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 400 Seventh St., S.W., Washington, D.C. 20590. Radar jammers are transmitters tuned to interfere with ("jam") a radar signal. The intentional use of jammers is considered "malicious interference" and is strictly prohibited by the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, as well as by FCC Rules. Anyone using a jammer risks such penalties as losing an FCC licenses, paying a fine, or facing criminal prosecution. 17268 Radar detectors are radio receivers tuned to receive radar signals and are used by motorists to provide a warning of any radar activity in the vicinity. In this regard, the FCC regulations pertaining to receivers do not address the subject of radar detectors. The use of radar detectors by members of the public, therefore, does not constitute in itself a violation of FCC Rules. Some jurisdictions, however, have local regulations or statutes concerning the use of radar detectors. Inquiries about such statutes should be directed to local law enforcement authorities. In summary, the FCC Rules regulate radar transmitting units but provide limited regulation over receivers, with the subject of radar detectors not being specifically addressed in the FCC Rules. For more information about the subject of this notice, contact the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau, Private Wireless Division, at (202) 418-0680. -FCC- 17269
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I obtained my license in 1993. This was issued in 1996. Also, the state police are not using just transmitters in VA. They are using "Sniffers" which are transceivers (transmit/receive). " Radar units are transceivers, i.e. they both transmit and receive a signal, and operate under rules for the Radiolocation Service contained in Part 90 of the FCC's Rules. As such, they are type-accepted and authorized by the FCC under Parts 2 and 90 of the FCC's Rules."


" that already have a FCC license for a radio communications system, may operate radar units without obtaining a separate license for them."

He did not already have a license and therefore was not grandfathered. And since the State Trooper was NOT the expert in this case and the FCC official was the expert, having an engineering degree and the a broad sword to wield the state trooper lost. I might also add that in another case the Chief engineer of a radio station in Philly I worked at, proved the calibration wrong in a case. The officer admitted having the gun dash mounted on a hot day with the AC running. He (the engineer) brought in a mock dashboard with a fan in it to simulate the operation of a vehicle running AC. When the gun was turned on with nothing to point at it registered some 30 mph on its readout. It was picking up the oscillation of the fan and therefore was +/- off 30 mph's. Moral of the story. Fight the darn ticket. The police are not always right. They are taught to lie in order to obtain evidence. This carries over into other areas. How do I know? Dad was a cop, brother is a cop, brother in law(s) are cops.

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This information is very enlightening thanks for sharing it.

I always fight tickets no matter what anyway because I completely agree with you, police tend to abuse the power of the law and most people just roll over and don't fight them.
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