rktskicar

I think he is talking about the boost level.

Bruce

m444

The list price of the Stasis & APR tune ($1499) is nearly the same, but for this month the APR tune is on sale.

The basic ECU tune cost difference is (when the APR tune is not on sale) the install & shipping cost , which depends on the dealer .

FatalBert

I thought the Stasis tune IS the APR tune. Didn't Stasis pay APR $150k to put their name on the APR tune?

dprule

Winner Audi in Wilmington, Delaware

Can_I_Haz?

FatalBert,
I was making a point about warantee. warantee = insurance not a better or safer product.

BTW lets see what happens when someone puts a non stasis catback or intake with a stasis tune and for whatever reason the motor melts a piston. Stasis can say our tune is only designed to work with our parts or a stock car only and wont honor the warantee.

An intake can easily throw off a maf signal. Alot of intakes for other cars are designed make power this way. I personally witnessed an evo drop a half point on the A/F ratio with just an intake on a dyno! And the evo is supposed to have (at the time) one of the most accurate MAF sensors out there.

FatalBert

Oh, I was just asking for clarification. I thought the tune that Stasis provides is the same exact tune that APR provides just at a higher price because of the "warantee" they "provide". If so, then the only time I could see their warantee being useful is if the ONLY thing you do to your car is the ECU tune. Then there may be some grounds on blaming them if something fails, since it is the only thing you did to the car.

Regardless, I would still like to be sure if the Stasis tune is indeed identical to the tune that APR provides. Does anyone fully know?

helix139

It's been discussed at length exactly what the Stasis warranty is worth. The big question is what happens if Audi says it is Stasis' fault and Stasis says it's Audi's fault? The contract I saw doesn't have any language to prevent the customer from being caught in the middle. Your scenario would seem to have some merit also, and there is the additional possibility that if Stasis ever went belly up, you're left with a tune with no warranty that the dealer and Audi know you have.

As far as whether the Stasis and APR 91 tunes are identical, nobody really knows, and I doubt we ever will unless someone else learns how to crack the 1024-bit encryption on our ECU and pulls the programs. It is all but confirmed through APR's non-denials that they did indeed program the Stasis tune, though.