Called local dealer for Stasis reflash...
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The basic ECU tune cost difference is (when the APR tune is not on sale) the install & shipping cost , which depends on the dealer .
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I thought the Stasis tune IS the APR tune. Didn't Stasis pay APR $150k to put their name on the APR tune?
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I was making a point about warantee. warantee = insurance not a better or safer product.
BTW lets see what happens when someone puts a non stasis catback or intake with a stasis tune and for whatever reason the motor melts a piston. Stasis can say our tune is only designed to work with our parts or a stock car only and wont honor the warantee.
An intake can easily throw off a maf signal. Alot of intakes for other cars are designed make power this way. I personally witnessed an evo drop a half point on the A/F ratio with just an intake on a dyno! And the evo is supposed to have (at the time) one of the most accurate MAF sensors out there.
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FatalBert,
I was making a point about warantee. warantee = insurance not a better or safer product.
BTW lets see what happens when someone puts a non stasis catback or intake with a stasis tune and for whatever reason the motor melts a piston. Stasis can say our tune is only designed to work with our parts or a stock car only and wont honor the warantee.
An intake can easily throw off a maf signal. Alot of intakes for other cars are designed make power this way. I personally witnessed an evo drop a half point on the A/F ratio with just an intake on a dyno! And the evo is supposed to have (at the time) one of the most accurate MAF sensors out there.
I was making a point about warantee. warantee = insurance not a better or safer product.
BTW lets see what happens when someone puts a non stasis catback or intake with a stasis tune and for whatever reason the motor melts a piston. Stasis can say our tune is only designed to work with our parts or a stock car only and wont honor the warantee.
An intake can easily throw off a maf signal. Alot of intakes for other cars are designed make power this way. I personally witnessed an evo drop a half point on the A/F ratio with just an intake on a dyno! And the evo is supposed to have (at the time) one of the most accurate MAF sensors out there.
Regardless, I would still like to be sure if the Stasis tune is indeed identical to the tune that APR provides. Does anyone fully know?
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Oh, I was just asking for clarification. I thought the tune that Stasis provides is the same exact tune that APR provides just at a higher price because of the "warantee" they "provide". If so, then the only time I could see their warantee being useful is if the ONLY thing you do to your car is the ECU tune. Then there may be some grounds on blaming them if something fails, since it is the only thing you did to the car.
Regardless, I would still like to be sure if the Stasis tune is indeed identical to the tune that APR provides. Does anyone fully know?
Regardless, I would still like to be sure if the Stasis tune is indeed identical to the tune that APR provides. Does anyone fully know?
As far as whether the Stasis and APR 91 tunes are identical, nobody really knows, and I doubt we ever will unless someone else learns how to crack the 1024-bit encryption on our ECU and pulls the programs. It is all but confirmed through APR's non-denials that they did indeed program the Stasis tune, though.
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