MTM piggy back ECU
08-25-2010, 08:43 PM
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They sure are getting a lot of attention with this article. If people only knew... http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...oming-Tomorrow
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08-26-2010, 07:02 AM
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They sure are getting a lot of attention with this article. If people only knew... http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...oming-Tomorrow
In any case, with Stasis and APR release ECU products this year - it'll be good for competition.
08-26-2010, 08:15 AM
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That whole thread - I dunno. Its one person's bad experience and could be chalked up as an isolated incident. While I'm dubious about the MTM product - I'm keeping an open mind. To this day I still haven't seen a clear before and after dyno.
In any case, with Stasis and APR release ECU products this year - it'll be good for competition.
In any case, with Stasis and APR release ECU products this year - it'll be good for competition.
Another customer who posts here also had a CEL from his ECU, apparently the Cantronic was making the engine run way too rich.
08-27-2010, 06:08 AM
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I don't get it...why doesn't someone just do some performance testing of the MTM product? i.e. Hoppen motorsports or someone?
JHM has made great products for B5/6/7 S4s for years...but never sell ANYTHING on dyno #s. They prove the product at the track
Why doesn't MTM or Hoppen do the same? Very frustrating to say the least. I looked at an A6 3.0T Avant and thought a nice piggyback would be a great addition, but WTF are those guys up to over there?
MTM's history is IMPECCABLE. R. Mayer's history with Audi is unprecedented in the Audi tuner world...and to think they would create a product that does nothing is ridiculous.
There is definitely more to the story here.
p.s. didn't that guy voltron's head do a bunch of acceleration tests in cool temps and have a solid 0-60mph gain using GTECH? 0.2-0.4 seconds or something. That's a massive jump, so that's not an accident. If anyone thinks that's nothing, they need to study acceleration of 4000lb cars a little more.
JHM has made great products for B5/6/7 S4s for years...but never sell ANYTHING on dyno #s. They prove the product at the track
Why doesn't MTM or Hoppen do the same? Very frustrating to say the least. I looked at an A6 3.0T Avant and thought a nice piggyback would be a great addition, but WTF are those guys up to over there?
MTM's history is IMPECCABLE. R. Mayer's history with Audi is unprecedented in the Audi tuner world...and to think they would create a product that does nothing is ridiculous.
There is definitely more to the story here.
p.s. didn't that guy voltron's head do a bunch of acceleration tests in cool temps and have a solid 0-60mph gain using GTECH? 0.2-0.4 seconds or something. That's a massive jump, so that's not an accident. If anyone thinks that's nothing, they need to study acceleration of 4000lb cars a little more.
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08-27-2010, 06:52 AM
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I don't get it...why doesn't someone just do some performance testing of the MTM product? i.e. Hoppen motorsports or someone?
JHM has made great products for B5/6/7 S4s for years...but never sell ANYTHING on dyno #s. They prove the product at the track
Why doesn't MTM or Hoppen do the same? Very frustrating to say the least. I looked at an A6 3.0T Avant and thought a nice piggyback would be a great addition, but WTF are those guys up to over there?
MTM's history is IMPECCABLE. R. Mayer's history with Audi is unprecedented in the Audi tuner world...and to think they would create a product that does nothing is ridiculous.
There is definitely more to the story here.
p.s. didn't that guy voltron's head do a bunch of acceleration tests in cool temps and have a solid 0-60mph gain using GTECH? 0.2-0.4 seconds or something. That's a massive jump, so that's not an accident. If anyone thinks that's nothing, they need to study acceleration of 4000lb cars a little more.
JHM has made great products for B5/6/7 S4s for years...but never sell ANYTHING on dyno #s. They prove the product at the track
Why doesn't MTM or Hoppen do the same? Very frustrating to say the least. I looked at an A6 3.0T Avant and thought a nice piggyback would be a great addition, but WTF are those guys up to over there?
MTM's history is IMPECCABLE. R. Mayer's history with Audi is unprecedented in the Audi tuner world...and to think they would create a product that does nothing is ridiculous.
There is definitely more to the story here.
p.s. didn't that guy voltron's head do a bunch of acceleration tests in cool temps and have a solid 0-60mph gain using GTECH? 0.2-0.4 seconds or something. That's a massive jump, so that's not an accident. If anyone thinks that's nothing, they need to study acceleration of 4000lb cars a little more.
08-27-2010, 10:30 AM
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MTM couldn't figure it out and refunded his money enough said.
Also like you say sak why don't they just provide the information?
Lastly if you read the APR dyno thread you will see that only 50chp at the top end can be had from the current setup. Need new supercharger and possibly a new pulley to get anymore. Hence we know that the MTM numbers will not be from a dyno for sure but the manufacturers numbers combined with tuned numbers and not the actual S4 dynoed numbers and tuned numbers.
Also like you say sak why don't they just provide the information?
Lastly if you read the APR dyno thread you will see that only 50chp at the top end can be had from the current setup. Need new supercharger and possibly a new pulley to get anymore. Hence we know that the MTM numbers will not be from a dyno for sure but the manufacturers numbers combined with tuned numbers and not the actual S4 dynoed numbers and tuned numbers.
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MTM couldn't figure it out and refunded his money enough said.
Also like you say sak why don't they just provide the information?
Lastly if you read the APR dyno thread you will see that only 50chp at the top end can be had from the current setup. Need new supercharger and possibly a new pulley to get anymore. Hence we know that the MTM numbers will not be from a dyno for sure but the manufacturers numbers combined with tuned numbers and not the actual S4 dynoed numbers and tuned numbers.
Also like you say sak why don't they just provide the information?
Lastly if you read the APR dyno thread you will see that only 50chp at the top end can be had from the current setup. Need new supercharger and possibly a new pulley to get anymore. Hence we know that the MTM numbers will not be from a dyno for sure but the manufacturers numbers combined with tuned numbers and not the actual S4 dynoed numbers and tuned numbers.
FYI I don't trust ANYONE (tuners) till I see track proven results. Dynos don't mean jack **** in this world (of tuner provided dynos).
There are DOZENS of B6/7 S4 products that were just a scam. Everything from the classic sprintbooster to the GSG intake to $10,000 VF Engineering superchargers that deliver about 70crank hp but claim 160 crank hp.
All made unfounded promises...all cost S4 owners a fortune. You guys won't be any exception...you have the new car that was $55,000...and they'll do their best to sell you some crap because you're excited about your cars and ready to spend.