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Old 08-15-2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 4CE FED NOGARO
I love that it is possible to get these numbers out of the car but it is not physically possible to run a 12 second quarter mile with 360 hp and a 4000lb + car, Either the quarter mile reading is wrong or the dyno is wrong.
LOL - ya the voluminous amount of time slips showing those 12 second numbers must all be wrong. Come on, man, like forza said, just do some searching on here and AZ and you'll see plenty of good 12 second times.

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Old 08-15-2011, 01:40 PM
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Since you are well versed in this could you post a 12.0 - 12.1 time slip and video for me to see? I mean all youtube videos are real aren't they? I will be happy to put my knowledge of physics aside if you can simply show me a piece of paper with some numbers on it. LOL!!!

To run a 12.0 quarter mile time you would need about 420-430 wheel HP. I'm not trying to be a hater here but common guys lets get real.
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Originally Posted by 4CE FED NOGARO
Since you are well versed in this could you post a 12.0 - 12.1 time slip and video for me to see? I mean all youtube videos are real aren't they? I will be happy to put my knowledge of physics aside if you can simply show me a piece of paper with some numbers on it. LOL!!!

To run a 12.0 quarter mile time you would need about 420-430 wheel HP. I'm not trying to be a hater here but common guys lets get real.
From Primetime;

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ag-Strip-Times.

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Sure. Here are a few:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-vm...=14&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkflN..._order&list=UL

Ron, do you have video of your best run? I couldn't find it.
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Alright you win. Your car has over 400 hp!!!
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Yeah, it's possible with low drag coefficient, great 4-wheel drive traction, and Launch control.

Originally Posted by 4CE FED NOGARO
I love that it is possible to get these numbers out of the car but it is not physically possible to run a 12 second quarter mile with 360 hp and a 4000lb + car, Either the quarter mile reading is wrong or the dyno is wrong.
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Originally Posted by 4CE FED NOGARO
Alright you win. Your car has over 400 hp!!!
Well actually it's not my car - Primetime earned the honor of fastest B8 S4. I'll defer to him on the validity of his dyno readings. But I can GUARANTEE you that he is not running 420-430 whp, which you claim below to be absolutely necessary to get into the low 12s.

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lol circuit tested is a guy like you or I who is driving his car around and making comments about it.
Isn't that kind of the point? To drive around and provide feedback?

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That's about it. Further, saying it's better than stock means jack ****. Stock sucks when it comes to exhaust parts. Beating 'stock' is like Kramer being king of the dojo...or winning a tallest midget contest. It's nothing to brag about. Great...you're better than stock. Now let's identify the BEST part and stop messing around.
Disagree. An exhaust modification for a street car is a compromise between sound and performance. There is a reason race cars sound the way they do. The point isn't to simply add the MOST horsepower, it is to find a happy medium, for each customer, that maximizes the benefits of performance AND sound.

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There is no 'their'...or 'they'...or 'we'...it's one dude. If you trust one dude and questionable testing methods, that's just fine. I would seek better sources personally.
Not true. There are actually four of us. We all have different roles. "I" own the B8 S4 and as a result it makes sense that "I" am responsible for the B8 S4 content but "we" all work on the reviews and "we" have an equal vote on the recommendation decisions.

As for the rest of your post, I would be extremely hesitant to compare what "worked" exhaust wise across platforms. The exhaust requirements for a NA V8 are not the same as a supercharged V6 and making assumptions based solely on the diameter of the exhaust tubing is not logical.
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Originally Posted by 4CE FED NOGARO
Alright you win. Your car has over 400 hp!!!
So the guys have pointed you to some solid data from a reputable source? How about you show us some data on why it's impossible to run 12's with the numbers Ron has documented.
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Originally Posted by 4CE FED NOGARO
Alright you win. Your car has over 400 hp!!!
I would wager that this is correct depending on the dyno. According to APR, a car running 100 octane Stage 2+, which primetime has, would put down just over 400 hp on their dyno.


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