Took the S4 to the track last weekend
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Thanks and a question
Great vids, thx for posting and looking forward to more.
Very wise to spend the time to learn the proper line and braking points then build up speed as your confidence and consistency improve.
Do they teach maximum braking where you hit the brakes hard enough for the ABS to kick in or do they teach using less braking effort so that you can more easily modulate it?
Very wise to spend the time to learn the proper line and braking points then build up speed as your confidence and consistency improve.
Do they teach maximum braking where you hit the brakes hard enough for the ABS to kick in or do they teach using less braking effort so that you can more easily modulate it?
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Great vids, thx for posting and looking forward to more.
Very wise to spend the time to learn the proper line and braking points then build up speed as your confidence and consistency improve.
Do they teach maximum braking where you hit the brakes hard enough for the ABS to kick in or do they teach using less braking effort so that you can more easily modulate it?
Very wise to spend the time to learn the proper line and braking points then build up speed as your confidence and consistency improve.
Do they teach maximum braking where you hit the brakes hard enough for the ABS to kick in or do they teach using less braking effort so that you can more easily modulate it?
Yeah, I found as I got more and more comfortable and in the groove, I began pushing on my own (like in the final complex before the front straight - as noted by the instructors comments haha). Speed will definitely come naturally once consistency is settled.
They had some braking exercises in the driver's education course. Speed up to 60 and hit the brakes and let ABS kick in until the car stops. After that, I practiced some threshold braking (brake hard until you kinda detect it is at its limit and ABS is about to kick in). And I started using a lot more of the brakes on my second video (only session that I used the brakes really hard). They also taught us the Traction Circle as well (I love all the theory part - so stuff like there's an imaginary string tied between the wheel and gas pedal - the more you turn, the less throttle you can use, etc).
I'll definitely post some more vids tonight after work.
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Yup! A GoPro HD Motorsports. I wanted to put it on the windshield initially but I didn't want to block the instructor's view. Maybe when I can drive solo on the track I'll mount it there. I'd also like to experiment with it being mounted outside of the car as well (the suction cup mount is really strong)...
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Nice videos!
I have the same camera. Definitely mounting it in various places can spice things up.
Here is a short video of myself at an audi event at Mosport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l_6EvUKXz8
I have the same camera. Definitely mounting it in various places can spice things up.
Here is a short video of myself at an audi event at Mosport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l_6EvUKXz8
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Thanks for sharing PsYkHoTiK - i was interested in how the brake upgrade you and NW did would hold up on the track. I did a track day at Pacific a couple months ago and my experience was similar (and I had the stock brakes): if you really want to track this car hard you need a better set up to haul it's portly 2 ton butt down. In fact I think in my write-up I suggested that new brakes would probably be the first mod I'd do (if I do any).
So, are you going to get a BBK?
So, are you going to get a BBK?
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Handling wise, I'm going to keep bone stock for now. The lead instructor has convinced me. He explained that any mods you do decreases the margin of tolorance that a car has. Like in corners, I could hear the tires chirping (close to it's limit) but I still knew that the car could forgive me if I pushed a tad harder as it still had more adhesion to give. If I had stiffer suspension, that margin would decrease as it would be much less forgiving. Even changing the tires to racing rubber (chirping would be bad - as it really means it is about to break loose).
Let's just say that the point of loss of control with an improved suspension also moves (and I think it does move) to a hypothetical X+10%. So the suspension letting you know that it is reaching its limits at X-10% actually leaves you the same margin of 20% and, further, moves the speed at which control will be lost higher, thus making it less likely to be reached and which, taken together, makes the vehicle with the improved suspension safer overall. Just because you can drive faster safely doesn't necessarily mean that you will. In fact you'll probably drive at very near the same speed as before the upgrade but your safety margin after the upgrade will be substantially bigger.
In other words I think the instructor has it exactly backwards. He is essentially saying that improving your car makes it more dangerous to drive fast and I say that improving your car is, well, improving your car.
And improvements will make it both perform better and be safer.
what say ye?
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In other words I think the instructor has it exactly backwards. He is essentially saying that improving your car makes it more dangerous to drive fast and I say that improving your car is, well, improving your car.
And improvements will make it both perform better and be safer.
what say ye?
And improvements will make it both perform better and be safer.
what say ye?
and to OP, thanks for the post and the videos. Super cool stuff.