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Old 04-04-2011, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by k1speederS4
I couldn't really find a JL that find what I was looking for. This one is a great sub but more power than I need and way more than I want to spend on just the component (http://www.crutchfield.com/s_136106V...and%7cJL+Audio).

The only other JL I was looking at is http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_s...p?series_id=15 but it isn't powerful enough I think. The beauty of dual voice coils is that they are extremely efficient, can be switched to a different amp down the line if I want more power and are cost effective.



I did look at that when I was trying to find subs. I found another one that is higher end and really great but the mounting bracket looked like it had a 12" diameter and I didn't think that would fly. I also know that none of these are free-air subs and I am wondering if I will regret that. I noticed that yours was not free air either. Having any problems with crispness so far?
I hear no problems with the crispness and doesn't sound muddy to me. However, since you're an audio engineer i'm sure you have a better sense of what it "should" sound like compared to what i think sounds good.
Old 04-04-2011, 02:54 PM
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^ That is good to hear. I am not too worried about it either because I don't want booming bass just enough to fill in the current holes. I know what it should sound like but unfortunately, I have no idea what the best products in car audio are. I thought JBL would be good because they manufacture some of the best power and unpowered speakers in the mid-level price range. I am guessing it will take me a couple tries until I am completely happy.

Okay well I am off to a recommended (by an AZ member) audio shop to check some things out and I will update later. This is gonna be my project for the week while I am enjoying spring break and only a couple days of work :P
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Did you read this thread? Lots of info here;

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...1#post24031981

If you wish to use the stock amplifier, then Kicker 10" 8 ohm speaker will work since it is recommended for free air will applications.

One could also use the JL Audio 10W1v2-8 speaker.

The Kicker Comp 10" 8 ohm puts out plenty of bass to balance with the B&O, but lots of Dynamat is needed for the rear deck.

The Kicker 10" Comp speaker needs a 1.25" thick spacer (0.5"width annulus) to fit in the stock hole since the 10" Kicker requires a 9.125" hole and the stock Audi mounting hole is around 8.875"

The JL Audio 10W1v2-8 speaker requires a 8.9375" mounting hole, so it almost fits without a spacer but has a 3dB lower efficiency than the Kicker.

The JL install is the easiest and only needs about 1/8" spacer.
Old 04-04-2011, 06:44 PM
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You need to find some sub(s) that can do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3FqG7yXEUs
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Originally Posted by skiracerblah
You need to find some sub(s) that can do this....
You need a couple of these; http://caraudiomag.com/articles/kick...plifier-review

And a few of these Kicker SoloX; http://www.kicker.com/solo_x

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Size (IN.,CM)</td> <td>18, 45.7</td> </tr> <tr class="row-odd"> <td>Weight (lbs.,kg)</td> <td>103, 46.8</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Max Rec Amplifier Power (WATTS PEAK/RMS)<sup>*</sup></td> <td>6000/3000</td> </tr> <tr class="row-odd"> <td>Sensitivity (dB 1w/1m)</td> <td>89.7</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Frequency Response (Hz)</td> <td>18-100</td> </tr> <tr class="row-odd"> <td>Mounting Depth (IN.,CM)</td> <td>11/3/8, 28.9</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Mounting Cutout, Square (IN.,CM)</td> <td>16-11/16, 42.4</td></tr></tbody></table>

http://www.floridacaraudio.com/conte...p1010001-2.jpg

Here is an array of subs.....
http://www.kicker.com/category/Image...s/Warhorse_Van
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Originally Posted by m444
Did you read this thread? Lots of info here;

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...1#post24031981

If you wish to use the stock amplifier, then Kicker 10" 8 ohm speaker will work since it is recommended for free air will applications.

One could also use the JL Audio 10W1v2-8 speaker.

The Kicker Comp 10" 8 ohm puts out plenty of bass to balance with the B&O, but lots of Dynamat is needed for the rear deck.

The Kicker 10" Comp speaker needs a 1.25" thick spacer (0.5"width annulus) to fit in the stock hole since the 10" Kicker requires a 9.125" hole and the stock Audi mounting hole is around 8.875"

The JL Audio 10W1v2-8 speaker requires a 8.9375" mounting hole, so it almost fits without a spacer but has a 3dB lower efficiency than the Kicker.

The JL install is the easiest and only needs about 1/8" spacer.
I did check out that thread, it is what inspired me to do this project. My only concern is that the Kicker or JL 8ohm is not powerful enough for what I want to do. I would chose the kicker over the JL because of efficiency but I still don't know if that is what I want. I may order the 8 ohm and the dual 4ohm and do a comparison. Thanks for the tip on the install, I will have MDF and my router ready to go!

How much dynamat are we talking here? Would 4 sq ft for the top and bottom of the deck be enough or more???
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Originally Posted by skiracerblah
You need to find some sub(s) that can do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3FqG7yXEUs
I was going to save this project for my Q5. Who needs the only thing that Makes an SUV and SUV??? Screw the trunk space I want 30,000 watts!
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Okay, I have ordered 2 subs. I got the Kicker 10CVR104 and the Kicker 10C108. I am going to dynamat my rear deck and install these both hopefully this weekend. I will takes pics and vids of both with my impressions to let everyone know how it does. I may keep the 10CVR104 even if I don't install if now so I can install it with an amp at 4 ohms down the line. This will also be a good comparison for those of you that went with 8 ohm subs or are still on the fence about what to do. I am going to try both with the stock amp and see how things go.

Thanks for all the help!
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looking forward to pics and your impressions....
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The example the phone book shreading was built, sometime after this bronco built by Kicker in 2000, 165dB SPL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2x6t0etOtM


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