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Old 08-29-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default you're not supposed to smell any fumes...

and if you do, you've got a leak somewhere...i'd stop driving the car if i were you..READ..VERY VERY DANGEROUS!
where's the location of that secondary fuel pump? i have mine right near the cabin air filter and the one time i smelt fumes inside the cabin is when i had a leaky connection that i fixed right away.
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Cool, glad you noted an improvement.
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Default Actually, here's what I do have....

I put in 4% Ch2 and 3% Ch10 and 1.5* Ch9. I logged it on the way to work today and had virtually no CFs! O2s ran up to .88 (fat, cool), timing was APR/91, 2-6*, CFs on #2 and #5 were 2.25, the rest 0. I think I'll throw another degree into it and see what happens.
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Holy crap, that's some really conservative code! Keep adding timing (and fuel) and see what happens.
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Default Here's what I think it does...

It's an additive trim which affects idle pretty profoundly if you tweak it low enough (60% in my experience) But it's just an offset number (Linear) not multiplicative (Like Primary fueling which is multiplied by load, it seems).

Say you're fueling 5 g/s at idle. You need .35 or so grams of fuel to maintain that. Say, -10% of that is -.035, that brings you down to .315. This could make a significant difference at idle, but by subtracting that .035 from say WOT of 330g/s you go from 23.57g/s of fuel to 23.535... Not much of a difference at all.

I've charted .01 O2 variations with tweaking secondary but that required so much pulled that idle suffered. AND that may have been off anyhow due to narrowband limitations.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/2082621.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/2082621.phtml</a</li></ul>
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Then you should set your primary as it was before and PULL secondary to help your fuel economy.
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Default 25% is the limit Hal...

How's your project coming along? Look me up if you run into any problems.
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Default how much should be pulled?

I'm wondering if this would be a good idea for me when I'm already lean at idle after adding 10.2% to primary to clean up WOT
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Default Pull until your part/idle trims are closer to zero.

You really should get your primary set for maximum power first. Then tweak your secondary. I'd think you can take 20% off without many issues. Just log after every change and go in small increments.

WOT should remain where you set primary, roughly. Your cold start and part throttle will be affected if you pull too much though. The cold start is the only thing you can't compensate for with the other channels.


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