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can i run k03/k16 with just giac x and no fpr,tcd or mbc?

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Old 03-17-2005, 07:23 PM
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Default can i run k03/k16 with just giac x and no fpr,tcd or mbc?

any known problems? will i blow up my motor with too much boost?

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Default You'll most likely spike well above requested at initial WOT and cut throttle. As a result....

your car will be SUPER SLOW! At the very least, install a MBC in parallel to limit the initial boost spike. Your car should run great with that and no need for a TCD or FPR.

The next step in power increases would be adding a TCD, putting the MBC in control of boost, and adding a 5 bar FPR. It is not required, though.
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i got piggies mbc and he said giac didnt need the parallel version
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Default If you don't want to run a TCD or FPR, you'll really be better off with it in parallel.

If you want to run MBC only, I'd suggest putting in a 5 bar FPR and a TCD, or else you will cut throttle and/or run a bit on the lean side up top.
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Thanks!! at what boost level do you set your mbc?
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Default In parallel or MBC only with FPR and TCD?

In parallel, I'd set it to 17-18 psi or so to get some nice kick in the butt low end torque.

MBC only setup, I'd set it to 16-16.5 psi, which it will hold to redline. Much above that and you'll max out the MAF sensor.
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so which way produces the most power?
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Default Definitely the MBC only set to 16-16.5 psi, 5 bar FPR, TCD.

With MBC in parallel setup, you taper to 12.x psi as opposed to the setup I explained above, which holds 16-16.5 psi all the way to redline. I'd say you're looking at 25-30 hp increase by adding the extra boost, maybe more?
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Thanks again Doc!
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Just out of curiosity, what is jacob running? I know he is getting pretty good numbers as a stage 3-


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