A/F Chart of the day (worth seeing) + 100octane track ecux logs
#22
Cool. SEL scaling is nice but only when the ECU controls everything...not Homebrew.
here are some race gas logs from my car:
Just under 23 PSI spike tapering to ~20.5 by redline, a bit of timing advance after ECU reset by unplugging...
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct82f_MAFTimi.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/23psi100oct82f_26297_AFR.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct82f_Correct.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct82f_02Volta.gif">
Just over 23 PSI spike tapering to ~21 PSI by redline, no timing advance and stored CFs from not resetting ECU....
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct66f_MAFTimi.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/23psi100oct66f_AFR.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct66f_Correct.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct66f_02Volta.gif">
Most recent race gas log, too much timing advance, similar boost curve....
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-5-2006_23psi100oct70f_MAFTimi.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/AFR_23psi100oct70f.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-5-2006_23psi100oct70f_Correct.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-5-2006_23psi100oct70f_02Volta.gif">
I will fill up with race gas again and play around sometime soon, still need to optimize that setup.
Just under 23 PSI spike tapering to ~20.5 by redline, a bit of timing advance after ECU reset by unplugging...
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct82f_MAFTimi.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/23psi100oct82f_26297_AFR.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct82f_Correct.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct82f_02Volta.gif">
Just over 23 PSI spike tapering to ~21 PSI by redline, no timing advance and stored CFs from not resetting ECU....
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct66f_MAFTimi.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/23psi100oct66f_AFR.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct66f_Correct.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-1-2006_23psi100oct66f_02Volta.gif">
Most recent race gas log, too much timing advance, similar boost curve....
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-5-2006_23psi100oct70f_MAFTimi.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/AFR_23psi100oct70f.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-5-2006_23psi100oct70f_Correct.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/Woo-7-5-2006_23psi100oct70f_02Volta.gif">
I will fill up with race gas again and play around sometime soon, still need to optimize that setup.
#23
I would think the richer mix and added timing on the second run are
counteracting one another and leaving you where you were before. You started with a leaner, faster burning mixture, which required less timing advance. For the second run the mixture was richer, burning slower, so timing is advanced slightly. The end result is you have the peak pressure happening at the same crank angle.
There should be no question that a mixture around 12.5-13:1 is going to release the most energy. Whether or not the operating conditions in this engine can support that A/F ratio is a different matter. But going richer than 12.5 is just adding gas to act as a coolant, not provide any additional power.
There should be no question that a mixture around 12.5-13:1 is going to release the most energy. Whether or not the operating conditions in this engine can support that A/F ratio is a different matter. But going richer than 12.5 is just adding gas to act as a coolant, not provide any additional power.
#28
No disagreement from me. I've been messing
with the water injection some lately, seeing how much fuel I can pull out without seeing any adverse affects. The baseline software runs a lambda from 0.76 up to 0.80, with the WI I've been able to lean that out to 0.82 to 0.84, and I have not yet seen any differences in the logged data. The car is faster though with the leaner mixture.
#29
That's how APR's OTS stage 3 software is now? Wow, similar to my curve in terms of leaning out.
This was last wideband log I did before it started reading all weird, -21.5% primary on this log but since then went to -20.5%:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/-21pt5primaryasonlylemmiwinkstweak.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/DocSlow/-21pt5primaryasonlylemmiwinkstweak.gif">