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Old 05-05-2003, 10:29 AM
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Default Hmm what happened? I state this in my opinion only. the H&R streets are too soft and not valved

correctly for the nose heavy S4.. Just my opinion
Old 05-05-2003, 11:10 AM
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Default Great handling for autocross, maybe for light track use but...

Rear was sprung too stiff for a properly composed street ride, maybe underdamped because of the higher rate too. The MTMs still have a firm rear spring rate but have much more compliance for a better ride. I had oversteer with my setup before, which is what I wanted, good for autocrossing, much closer to neutral now. Oh well... The MTM springs are more linear with no bound/inactive coils while the Hypercos & H&R & Neuspeeds do. I get more suspension travel over the same bump which contributes to the more compliant ride, drawback is I'm getting a little more body roll also. Tradeoffs as they are... For a daily driver I'm pretty happy with this combination. I like the stance too at 25 1/8" fender height front and rear.
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I concur.
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Is the "softness" due to the spring rates or shock?
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email me at chcampbe@vt.edu. So to be clear, the Koni sport dampers that come with the Stasis enthusiast package are the same as the MTM/Konis? I know the springs are different, but the dampers are the same correct? If that's the case, where do they get off charging $1500 for the spring/dampers whereas Stasis charges $800. The only difference is the spring!
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Old 05-05-2003, 01:18 PM
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Default No, dampers are different...

I'm using the old Vortrag valving on the MTM springs. The valving seems to work pretty well. These would be the custom Koni valving Enthusiast Set at $1359 compared to the MTM stuff @ $1485. So not that much different. Makes me suspect that the valving is close because the rear was underdamped with the 500 springs and damn nice with the 400s.
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Default I would almost say it's the spring rate, since it really likes to pogo, but it could be under dampen

I don't know enough about suspension setups to be able to say if it's that the spring rates are just too soft or the dampening of the shocks is not enough. Again my guess is the front shock rates on the sports are way to soft for how heavy the front of the S is.
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