I'm having a tough decision on brakes like I did on rims....>>
07-29-2002, 05:10 PM
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What are you talking about?
How do you know it isn't BS?
And why would you say the Mov'its wouldn't fade while others would?
Believe it or not, brakes have very little to do with stopping distance on initial stops... tires do. Only with lots and lots of stops does fade come into play... and the StopTechs definitely do reduce fade over stock brakes. Nearly all the big brake kits do.
I have AP 6 pots, but I'm not gonna sneeze at the StopTechs because they make a good brake... I know lots of people who run them at the track *hard* and they love 'em. Your post looks like you just read marketing fluff and take it for fact.
-B
And why would you say the Mov'its wouldn't fade while others would?
Believe it or not, brakes have very little to do with stopping distance on initial stops... tires do. Only with lots and lots of stops does fade come into play... and the StopTechs definitely do reduce fade over stock brakes. Nearly all the big brake kits do.
I have AP 6 pots, but I'm not gonna sneeze at the StopTechs because they make a good brake... I know lots of people who run them at the track *hard* and they love 'em. Your post looks like you just read marketing fluff and take it for fact.
-B
07-29-2002, 05:14 PM
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ACtually the size of the APR hats allows for more wheel spoke clearance...
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/36000/apr_3_011.jpg"></center><p>but also allows the pad backing plates to set precariously close to the hat as they wear...this is solved by adjusting two tabs on each side of the caliper that set the depth of the pad into the caliper...unfortunately APR negelcted to include this pearl of wisdom in their maunal...and presto...custom hat machining!
07-29-2002, 05:16 PM
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yep...that would be...
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/36000/apr_3_014.jpg"></center><p>less good.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/903384.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/903384.phtml</a</li></ul>
07-29-2002, 05:18 PM
#35
Thanks for saving me the time ;-)
Brake fade is about 3 things....
Rotor Temperature
Pad Compound MOT (Max Operating Temp)
Fluid Boiling Point
These can be broken down into seperate classes...which get combined into one term, "brake fade". You can have a kick *** rotor and kick *** high dry boiling point race fluid and still fade like a **** if you exceed the MOT of the pads you're using, aka pad fade. Or you can, "lose the pedal" wherein you have kick *** pads and rotors but the fluid is boiling because you've exceeded the dry boil point...or you've got water in it because it's old and the water has brought the boiling point way down which causes gas to form in the line. End result is you're not able to get the max brake torque reaction because you can't put enough pressure on the pads thru the pistons because you're too busy compressing water vapor :-(
Read between the lines (not you Cat) there's more information there most times than there is in the whole body of most companies marketing hype. It's all in the details...your name doesn't have to be Brembo to make brakes right ST has proven this.
Regards,
James R.
Rotor Temperature
Pad Compound MOT (Max Operating Temp)
Fluid Boiling Point
These can be broken down into seperate classes...which get combined into one term, "brake fade". You can have a kick *** rotor and kick *** high dry boiling point race fluid and still fade like a **** if you exceed the MOT of the pads you're using, aka pad fade. Or you can, "lose the pedal" wherein you have kick *** pads and rotors but the fluid is boiling because you've exceeded the dry boil point...or you've got water in it because it's old and the water has brought the boiling point way down which causes gas to form in the line. End result is you're not able to get the max brake torque reaction because you can't put enough pressure on the pads thru the pistons because you're too busy compressing water vapor :-(
Read between the lines (not you Cat) there's more information there most times than there is in the whole body of most companies marketing hype. It's all in the details...your name doesn't have to be Brembo to make brakes right ST has proven this.
Regards,
James R.
07-29-2002, 05:26 PM
#37
Hmm seems like that would help more with wheel ID clearance issues...like tire weights
the spoke thing is totally a function of the geometry of the wheel...say a wheel like the RE's that go out and hook back in...yes APR's move would help..but I'm sure some wheelstyles it might cause a problem fitment wise...I think it's a wash personally.
