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01-14-2005, 08:21 AM
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i can respect that. And for a double duty car, i would consider the same...
But for me and my way of thinking, the Ohlin set-up on a pure street only car is a bit overkill. But thats just for me.
I've ridden in a car w/a motorsports set-up. It was definitely very nice.
-KJ
I've ridden in a car w/a motorsports set-up. It was definitely very nice.
-KJ
01-14-2005, 09:56 AM
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Actually, this does make a lot of sense ...
I do tend to push pretty hard on the street. I've got lots of experience so I'm able to get quite close to the limit and yet not cross it. Plus, I don't mind expending the energy it takes to keep that level of concentration up.
Nonetheless, there is no way I am able to push a car on the street the way I can on a track. On the street I just need that extra margin to allow for the unknown. On the track, there are far fewer unknowns and so I need less margin. That is just a reality.
So where you say that less quality is needed on the street than the track I think you are right. The fact is, if the suspension isn't perfect on the street then all it does is make me build in more of a margin to account for that.
Nonetheless, if the suspension is that good on the street, then it does allow me to safely go that little bit faster knowing that I can depend on it a little more if I have to.
I think it is difficult to call the Öhlins "bling". Firstly, they aren't recognisable on the street unless someone actually puts the silly bumper sticker on the back. I guess some might know that there is a sport suspension on the car from following it but those people are few and far between. True, people here on Audiworld know. I actually debated not publicising the fact that I have Öhlins on the car but decided against it as I wanted the help of others in installing and setting them up. So of all the things you can do to a car, dampers are probably one of the least "bling" I can think of.
Worth the money? I think so. I bought my car with high mileage because I expected to change the suspension and other items. Given the overall value of the car, and given what this suspension allows it to do, I really do not think that the cost of the Öhlins is so much.
Anyway, I echo the advice of others here. Find someone with Öhlins on their car and try it. Then you will have firsthand experience to make a decision on. Nothing that you can read here will give you that.
Stephen
Nonetheless, there is no way I am able to push a car on the street the way I can on a track. On the street I just need that extra margin to allow for the unknown. On the track, there are far fewer unknowns and so I need less margin. That is just a reality.
So where you say that less quality is needed on the street than the track I think you are right. The fact is, if the suspension isn't perfect on the street then all it does is make me build in more of a margin to account for that.
Nonetheless, if the suspension is that good on the street, then it does allow me to safely go that little bit faster knowing that I can depend on it a little more if I have to.
I think it is difficult to call the Öhlins "bling". Firstly, they aren't recognisable on the street unless someone actually puts the silly bumper sticker on the back. I guess some might know that there is a sport suspension on the car from following it but those people are few and far between. True, people here on Audiworld know. I actually debated not publicising the fact that I have Öhlins on the car but decided against it as I wanted the help of others in installing and setting them up. So of all the things you can do to a car, dampers are probably one of the least "bling" I can think of.
Worth the money? I think so. I bought my car with high mileage because I expected to change the suspension and other items. Given the overall value of the car, and given what this suspension allows it to do, I really do not think that the cost of the Öhlins is so much.
Anyway, I echo the advice of others here. Find someone with Öhlins on their car and try it. Then you will have firsthand experience to make a decision on. Nothing that you can read here will give you that.
Stephen
01-14-2005, 10:06 AM
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Got it. Thanks!
There's quite a difference in the way they're tuned. What spring rates are used for the konis and your penske? Who did the valving?
Kinda weird that there's such a big difference between the 1 click from full stiff to full stiff on the Konis.
Kinda weird that there's such a big difference between the 1 click from full stiff to full stiff on the Konis.
01-14-2005, 11:04 AM
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Yeah, it's very exponential in the adjustments as opposed to the linear Penske's
The koni's had a 600lb. spring rate and those penske's were valved for roughly a 900lb. spring rate with room for adjustment. I can put more low speed rebound in the rear shocks on my car.