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Old 11-10-2003, 12:58 PM
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Default first you say it's the dyno, now you say it's APR's program. Make up your mind

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did you dyno on it? how'd you do with what configuration?
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Default Here's my 2nd & 3rd runs, with ESP off...

<img src="http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/s4/dyno/dyno_hptq_031108.gif">

And here was the 1st run (below). You can see how ESP cut power and thus I didn't reach my torque peak until after 4000 RPMs...

<img src="http://www.ktrperformance.com/gallery/Events/AudiGTG/graph_mark_p.gif">
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Default Uh, yes it did

Or are you saying that the video is faked?
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there was a problem with the timing device on that run
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Default Given his 109mph trap, that's almost dead on

Run the numbers yourself. ~3600lbs, 109mph -&gt; 371 crank HP on that calc. With the ~30% loss from crank to wheel on this dyno, you get 259.7wHP. Who woulda thunk it?

This calc is apparently adjusting for driveline loss, unless my stock 1.8T actually made 160wHP?

<a href="http://www.corral.net/tech/horsepower.html">Click</a>

How about some other evidence to corroborate the dyno's claim? Well, let's see. Take a look on s4biturbo.com at the time slips and mods. Stage 2+ cars are getting similar traps to Mark's car. Several cars have trapped at 108mph. According to <a href="http://www.clubdsm.com/tools/calchp.htm">this calc</a>, that's good for 354cHP. The same calc gives Mark's car 364cHP. Going along with the established 30% loss from crank to wheel on this dyno, that would place the Stage 2+ car at 247wHP.

On Saturday, a Stage 2 car made 235wHP. That's going to be around 335cHP. Back to the calculators and timeslip database, and what do we see? Stage 2 cars making about 230-240wHP.

Things are looking pretty darn consistent to me. What am I missing here?
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Default That's what I heard

It's a shame they couldn't get more runs in before the end of the season.

That 523wHP is pretty damn impressive!
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Default just don't forget to specify pump/race on each of those...

my 109 is on Pump gas
the 2+ slips that ran 108 are on Race gas
the chipped 2.7T's that dyno'd were on Pump gas
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It still shows that the KTR numbers aren't wildly off like some people would like to think.
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Is that with or with out i/c? HEHEHEHEHE


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