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06-21-2003, 10:13 PM
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Yet, three times in the last month you basically endorse Mobil 1 0W-30, even though it DOES NOT
meet Audi's specs:
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/260381.phtml">I use 0W-30 Mobil 1 in all my 2.7Ts in 70-90 degree year round weather for lower oil temps.</a>
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1279508.phtml">AG engineers changed recommendation to 0W-30 in latter models for superior lubrication flow rates.</a>
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1288221.phtml">Forget internet engineering advice and stick to the recommendations from the folks who built it.</a>
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/260381.phtml">I use 0W-30 Mobil 1 in all my 2.7Ts in 70-90 degree year round weather for lower oil temps.</a>
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1279508.phtml">AG engineers changed recommendation to 0W-30 in latter models for superior lubrication flow rates.</a>
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1288221.phtml">Forget internet engineering advice and stick to the recommendations from the folks who built it.</a>
06-21-2003, 10:15 PM
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You're grasping as straws here, I think the archives contain enough information now to dispell any
of this crap you are throwing out. I'm done with this debate. Like I said, I could care less what you run in your car.
06-21-2003, 10:18 PM
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Audi did a bang up job trouble shooting the 2.7T, hmm, let me see, even though they seemed to have
fixed the F hose problem, the TBB is still a weak point, and the K03's still suck.
Nonetheless, 0W-40 is still within Audi's spec'd range of 0W-30 to 5W-40...this imaginary viscosity delta that you've invented is meaningless. Furthermore, Mobil 1 0W-40 meets all of Audi's recommendations for API and ACEA classes, thier 0W-30, which you run, DOES NOT!!!
Nonetheless, 0W-40 is still within Audi's spec'd range of 0W-30 to 5W-40...this imaginary viscosity delta that you've invented is meaningless. Furthermore, Mobil 1 0W-40 meets all of Audi's recommendations for API and ACEA classes, thier 0W-30, which you run, DOES NOT!!!
06-22-2003, 04:47 AM
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actualy, the k03's are rock solid in 1.8t applications. They NEVER carp out, even chiiped for 100k
miles. It is how audi used them on the 2.7t, and the oiling problems that make them suspect
06-22-2003, 07:45 AM
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I am getting ready for a K04 Buildup
I think I am going to use AMSOIL 0w30.. Wow this stuff looks good! I wonder why the Mobil1 0w30 doesn't meet both SJ and SH combined .. AND mobil1 0w30 doesn't meet ACEA A2 or ACEA3
06-22-2003, 07:52 AM
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I am now endorsing anything that meets manual specs since new formulation M1(Supersyn) does not....
Amsoil 0W-30 meets OEM viscosity, API, and ACEA recommendations and is the best meeting all the criteria stated in the manual page posted. Hving a fan club doesn't make you any more less deluded on this issue. LOL.
06-22-2003, 07:55 AM
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Your time and effort on the oil debate will not change OEM recs. 0W-30 is factory fill and API or
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46293/s401oilviscosityperownersmanual.jpg"></center><p>
ACEA is okay in dino or syn. 0W-40 is not recommended. Choke on the facts. I proudly stand behind the factory specs and encourage all to ignore internet wannabe engineers and just read the manual. Mission accomplished. LOL.
ACEA is okay in dino or syn. 0W-40 is not recommended. Choke on the facts. I proudly stand behind the factory specs and encourage all to ignore internet wannabe engineers and just read the manual. Mission accomplished. LOL.
06-22-2003, 08:11 AM
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Re: I am getting ready for a K04 Buildup
That's what this whole thread is about, and a few other threads. That's why people are saying if you want to use Mobil then go with Mobil1 0w-40 since it covers all the ACEA specs. The debate is that it is not the initial recommended oil in the manul, but a close alternative since 5w-40 is mentioned. Like I said in my post viscosity delta is pointless to discuss for synthetics. If you want a 40 weight go with 0w-40 if you want a 30 weight go with 0w-30. But AMSOIL is the only 0w-30 I know of to meet all the specs in the manual and be Audi's initial recommendation.
Here's another feather in AMSOIL's cap...Other than absolute viscosty (which is obvious since it's a 30 weight v. 40 weight)AMSOIL 0w-30 specs are better, or almost equal to Mobil1 0w-40.
AMSOIL 0w-30 Viscosty Index = 196
Mobil1 0w-40 Viscosty index = 187
AMSOIL 0w-30 High Temperature High Shear=3.5 Mobil1 0w-40 High Temperature High Shear=3.6
AMSOIL TBN = 11
Mobil1 = N/A
AMSOIL 0w-30 Viscosity at 100ēC = 11.3
Mobil1 0w-40 Viscosity at 100ēC = 14.3
Here's another feather in AMSOIL's cap...Other than absolute viscosty (which is obvious since it's a 30 weight v. 40 weight)AMSOIL 0w-30 specs are better, or almost equal to Mobil1 0w-40.
AMSOIL 0w-30 Viscosty Index = 196
Mobil1 0w-40 Viscosty index = 187
AMSOIL 0w-30 High Temperature High Shear=3.5 Mobil1 0w-40 High Temperature High Shear=3.6
AMSOIL TBN = 11
Mobil1 = N/A
AMSOIL 0w-30 Viscosity at 100ēC = 11.3
Mobil1 0w-40 Viscosity at 100ēC = 14.3