Ok, with rising gas (especially race gas prices) who is going to be the first with an e85 tune?
05-16-2008, 10:33 AM
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Waste of time, IMO. Corn isn't the answer...
and the government and car companies know that. So it doesn't make sense to do ANY sort of planning and investing in the technology.
If the country's ENTIRE crop of corn was used for ethanol and none for food, it would still only supply about 15% of the country's cars. That's a bad relationship, and obviously not an answer.
Maybe the new president can turn Canada into one huge corn field and we can boost the number up to about 50% of cars, just as long as we adhere to a diet with no corn.
If the country's ENTIRE crop of corn was used for ethanol and none for food, it would still only supply about 15% of the country's cars. That's a bad relationship, and obviously not an answer.
Maybe the new president can turn Canada into one huge corn field and we can boost the number up to about 50% of cars, just as long as we adhere to a diet with no corn.
05-16-2008, 12:52 PM
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DB? Ok. You do understand the difference between energy and power?
Yes, you need more fuel, yes, it's efficiency is about 20%. Yes you'll get less gas mileage. But at around 105 octane, you can make race gas power, at less than pump prices. With race gas at the pump hovering around $7, and vp 109 going for over $9 a gallon, I'd much rather be running e85 and pay less than $3 a gallon for 15mpg or so.
05-16-2008, 12:55 PM
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What I meant was the possibillty to use e85 as a RACE gas alternative.
I know it's not an alternative for gas. Although, it seems the government is looking into more viable options than corn. To me it's a moot point, I don't want a flex fuel vehicle, I want a race tune that I don't have to spend $8 gallon to use.
05-16-2008, 01:54 PM
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finally, someone I can agree with!
Although I believe the environmental issues are only an excuse to not drill for oil in Alaska. I'd say it's better to buy oil from the middle east for now (even if it is expensive) and save our own reserves for when theirs run dry. Then we can double the exporting price when they ask to buy our stuff.. as payback.
05-16-2008, 09:57 PM
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You guys are a bunch of sheeple tards--E85 ROCKS as a race gas replacement
Solution to our oil needs? No. Cheaper to run than 92 pump gas? It's debatable, sometimes it is for me, sometimes it's not. But it makes cars go really damn fast, especially turbocharged ones with high compression ratios.
I've run my 80 on it for about two years now, I've got maybe 20-30k miles on it. However, I've always run it with standalone, first with Megasquirt and now 034IIc, so it was easy for me to tune/adapt to it.
If you guys with crappy gas try throwing in maybe a quarter to a third of a tank and run a 93 program, the car should adapt the mixtures automatically, and any timing pull will magically vanish into oblivion. BTDT on friends' cars, had the logs at the time to show it.
I've run my 80 on it for about two years now, I've got maybe 20-30k miles on it. However, I've always run it with standalone, first with Megasquirt and now 034IIc, so it was easy for me to tune/adapt to it.
If you guys with crappy gas try throwing in maybe a quarter to a third of a tank and run a 93 program, the car should adapt the mixtures automatically, and any timing pull will magically vanish into oblivion. BTDT on friends' cars, had the logs at the time to show it.