Review: S4 v. RS4 v. C4s
03-11-2003, 12:47 AM
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Opinions are just that. I don't have to shoot a gun to know it's not comfortable in my han
Or drive a car to know a shifters throw is long, ect.
I hear your point, Zev, but when you have an economic interest in the perception of the Nav+ and you tell someone their opinion is "wrong", you are the one who comes off incorrectly, at least in my "opinion".
Mike S
I hear your point, Zev, but when you have an economic interest in the perception of the Nav+ and you tell someone their opinion is "wrong", you are the one who comes off incorrectly, at least in my "opinion".
Mike S
03-11-2003, 12:51 AM
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Every RS4 driver I've ever spoken with at the Nürburgring has said the OEM brakes are terrible
and need to be replaced for track use.
Apparently they fade like no other and warp bad with 'Ring type use.
Mike S
Apparently they fade like no other and warp bad with 'Ring type use.
Mike S
03-11-2003, 02:38 AM
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nysh write-up. what you describe actually sounds like
AWE's KO4'd Avant without the super loud exhaust.
PS: if you want to feel that "pull" all the way to redline from a 300+ hp car...get yourself a ride in a Stage III 300ZX Twin Turbo.
PS: if you want to feel that "pull" all the way to redline from a 300+ hp car...get yourself a ride in a Stage III 300ZX Twin Turbo.
03-11-2003, 04:04 AM
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Hey Nige...you don't live in St. Albans, do you?
Long shot, I know...but I was visiting some family there back in Dec., and I woke up one morning to see a sweet Nogaro S4 Avant parked in front of their house.
03-11-2003, 07:21 AM
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does it make sense to you to test a stereo/Nav unit that is not
powered up ? How about testing cars with the engine off ? I don't care if someone USES the Nav and doesn't like it, but to tell people it sucks without using it, where is the logic ?
03-11-2003, 07:25 AM
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Zev, they may like the coolness factor of the Nav+, but I have to say...
that the positioning of the buttons to access, and from an ergonomic standpoint, the Nav + leaves something to be desired. I'm not talking once the Nav is entered and functioning. I'm talking about user controls and ease of navigation.
That's also the reason I pointed out with the Nav part, the Radio controls. They were a bit more cryptic (the radio was functioning), and not as easy as the simpler Symphony radio. It can only be attributed to the Nav+ unit displaying more information, and the simple fact that there are more buttons (and tinier)! I call it the teeny tiny cell phone syndrome. Sure, the phone looks cool, but it's harder to work it because your fingers can't feel the way around it and the buttons are too small yielding incorrect number entry.
The main reason is that in the normal Nav in my S4, the display is dead ahead, and I can change settings, even while travelling by feel. With the Nav+, the type sizes of the display are small, and because the screen is positioned lower in the console, it makes it that much harder to see, never mind the fact that the contrast level is lower than what I would have desired.
This could be the very reason why most stock screen based navigation systems are placed high up on the center console.
That's also the reason I pointed out with the Nav part, the Radio controls. They were a bit more cryptic (the radio was functioning), and not as easy as the simpler Symphony radio. It can only be attributed to the Nav+ unit displaying more information, and the simple fact that there are more buttons (and tinier)! I call it the teeny tiny cell phone syndrome. Sure, the phone looks cool, but it's harder to work it because your fingers can't feel the way around it and the buttons are too small yielding incorrect number entry.
The main reason is that in the normal Nav in my S4, the display is dead ahead, and I can change settings, even while travelling by feel. With the Nav+, the type sizes of the display are small, and because the screen is positioned lower in the console, it makes it that much harder to see, never mind the fact that the contrast level is lower than what I would have desired.
This could be the very reason why most stock screen based navigation systems are placed high up on the center console.