Revo logs .. Thoughts?
#1
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,860
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Since I can't really afford any custom tuning or have time to ship my car to ASP or EPL, I figured it was worth revisiting my Revo tune. This tune is a stage III K04 Tiptronic one of file that was made on my car. My car exibits NO part throttle problem like it does on GIAC, I can't tell you how butter smooth it really is they have very good control over transmission and sorts.... I get no throttle cut like I was mentioning in my earlier posts on the 3-4 shift. The only downsides to this software are the horrible startup/warmup I have to sort out (It wont even start cold) and the fact that I keep going into EGT enrichment at WOT.
I was showing these logs to AH10 (Anthony) and he suggested the high EGTs were caused by the fuel not really burning off inside the combustion chamber but rather as it exits into the exhaust manifold making my EGTs go through the roof. He mention that this is caused by the cars lack of timing advance (I was running -3 degrees at the time wasn't sure what to expect from this software just to be safe)
I did 4 runs, the run in light blue was my first run and the lemmiwink settings were Primary 0% timing -3. The other runs were done at either +5% primary and +8% primary and -2.25% degrees of timing. Anthony and I came to the conclusion that if I run at 5% primary and 0 on timing that the high EGTs might go away. According to my wideband the car stays at 11.5 throughout the run.
Anybody else have any ideas on how to fix the high EGT problem ? I am going to test Anthony's theory tonight. I would really like to run this code since it happens to work so well believe it or not.
Here are the logs:
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-1.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-2.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-3.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-4.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-5.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-6.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-7.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-8.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-9.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-10.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-11.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-12.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-13.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-14.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-15.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-16.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-17.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-18.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-19.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-20.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-21.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-22.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-23.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-24.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-25.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-26.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-27.gif">
I was showing these logs to AH10 (Anthony) and he suggested the high EGTs were caused by the fuel not really burning off inside the combustion chamber but rather as it exits into the exhaust manifold making my EGTs go through the roof. He mention that this is caused by the cars lack of timing advance (I was running -3 degrees at the time wasn't sure what to expect from this software just to be safe)
I did 4 runs, the run in light blue was my first run and the lemmiwink settings were Primary 0% timing -3. The other runs were done at either +5% primary and +8% primary and -2.25% degrees of timing. Anthony and I came to the conclusion that if I run at 5% primary and 0 on timing that the high EGTs might go away. According to my wideband the car stays at 11.5 throughout the run.
Anybody else have any ideas on how to fix the high EGT problem ? I am going to test Anthony's theory tonight. I would really like to run this code since it happens to work so well believe it or not.
Here are the logs:
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-1.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-2.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-3.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-4.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-5.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-6.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-7.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-8.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-9.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-10.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-11.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-12.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-13.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-14.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-15.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-16.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-17.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-18.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-19.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-20.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-21.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-22.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-23.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-24.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-25.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-26.gif">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/blk01s4/Revo_Nov12th/4runs_compare_graph_v10-27.gif">
#3
![Default](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I think you know how I feel about using a maf that's too big![Wink](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
You could try pulling about 10 more degrees of timing with lemmi, then resetting the ecu or unplugging it, whatever it takes to erase the timing correction factor memory, then check to see what your timing at WOT is.
I'm not suggesting that you always drive your car with 10+ degrees of timing pulled, just try it as a diagnostic test. I'd be interested in seeing if your timing actually improves.
![Wink](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
You could try pulling about 10 more degrees of timing with lemmi, then resetting the ecu or unplugging it, whatever it takes to erase the timing correction factor memory, then check to see what your timing at WOT is.
I'm not suggesting that you always drive your car with 10+ degrees of timing pulled, just try it as a diagnostic test. I'd be interested in seeing if your timing actually improves.
#5
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,860
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I wouldnt trust the readings from the narrow bands on Revo I added a lot of fuel just to get to 11.5 and it still says .86v. I think they fudge the output or something.
#6
![Default](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
What does ur CF hit?
Tell me more about the light blue run (#4 maybe.
It has the lowers inc DC% and best timing even w/ higher starting IAT. I can see its not the fastest FATS time.
Tell me more about the light blue run (#4 maybe.
It has the lowers inc DC% and best timing even w/ higher starting IAT. I can see its not the fastest FATS time.
#7
AudiWorld Super User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,860
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I am going to plug the turbos back into the N75 since revo has the boost setup already. Its aggressive for sure, I am going back to the settings for the blue run to study if I can get it any better.
Also have to stabilize the MAF reading via APEXI its a bit bumpy, my DC is wacky so I gotta adjust. uGH!
Also have to stabilize the MAF reading via APEXI its a bit bumpy, my DC is wacky so I gotta adjust. uGH!
![Smile](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Trending Topics
#10
![Default](https://www.audiworld.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
- you are running rs6 clearanced hybrids correct? if yes, I would think that 95%DC would have you spiking at 2 bar and thus destroy your timing
- 80% DC on my hybrids give me 24psi that tapers to 22.5
- 80% DC on my hybrids give me 24psi that tapers to 22.5