so yeah.... stock s4 suspension = understeer machine
01-30-2005, 06:32 AM
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so yeah.... stock s4 suspension = understeer machine
its snowing so i went out to do some flatspins..... which apparently are impossible to do in this car( i didnt give it my all, exhaust is loud and didnt want to wake the neighbors up)
wrx's and awd dsm's over steer much more than the audi. my buddies awd dsm does flatspins like a champ.
i had to do a handbrake induced spin.... but it sure wasnt a flat spin.
then again.. i dont think suspension has anything to do with traction in the snow.. does this car go more fwd in the snow?
wrx's and awd dsm's over steer much more than the audi. my buddies awd dsm does flatspins like a champ.
i had to do a handbrake induced spin.... but it sure wasnt a flat spin.
then again.. i dont think suspension has anything to do with traction in the snow.. does this car go more fwd in the snow?
01-30-2005, 07:09 AM
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That's the American way, stiffer spring rates will preserve independant suspension- ->
Domestic tuning methods lean toward stiffer bars with lower rate springs due to harsh roads.
Euro techniques, and what the higher end domestic companies like STaSIS favor is heavier spring rates and no bars... FWIW
Euro techniques, and what the higher end domestic companies like STaSIS favor is heavier spring rates and no bars... FWIW
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01-30-2005, 07:27 AM
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You just have to know how to drive...
Yes, it does understeer, but that doesn't mean you can bring the tail out.
Crank the wheel and lift throttle...learn what it takes to get the rear end to come around. Once you've figured that out, all you need to do is add enough throttle to get 4 wheels spinning once the rear end starts to slide.
DO NOT hold the steering wheel at full lock, or you'll blow the PS pump.
Do NOT give it gas if you feel the front end sliding out when going into the turn (or you'll just push out, and hit something). Wait for the front end to bit (and perhaps unwind the wheel a bit to get some bite).
And this car splits torque 50/50, unless wheel slip occurs. Traction has everything to do with the tires you're using, the balance you're noting (excessive understeer) has everything to do with the suspension, and your inability to get the rear to come around has everything to do with your ability to drive.
Crank the wheel and lift throttle...learn what it takes to get the rear end to come around. Once you've figured that out, all you need to do is add enough throttle to get 4 wheels spinning once the rear end starts to slide.
DO NOT hold the steering wheel at full lock, or you'll blow the PS pump.
Do NOT give it gas if you feel the front end sliding out when going into the turn (or you'll just push out, and hit something). Wait for the front end to bit (and perhaps unwind the wheel a bit to get some bite).
And this car splits torque 50/50, unless wheel slip occurs. Traction has everything to do with the tires you're using, the balance you're noting (excessive understeer) has everything to do with the suspension, and your inability to get the rear to come around has everything to do with your ability to drive.
01-30-2005, 07:27 AM
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more of like a bonding thing
i lack a relationship with my dad, and he wanted to give me something we could work on together before he dies. he drives the blue, i drive the white.
id say i drive the white one 90% of the time.
id say i drive the white one 90% of the time.
01-30-2005, 07:29 AM
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i ge tthe rear to come around, but then mid spin it starts understeering
and the spin gets wider. i want to spin on the axis of the car... oh and i dont lock the steering.