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Stage 3 pain: Dead sensors?, Running rich, HORRIBLE fuel economy.

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Old 01-14-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Stage 3 pain: Dead sensors?, Running rich, HORRIBLE fuel economy.

I installed my ASP MAF, 630cc injectors, 3 bar FPR, and AWE Stg 3 M-Box last week. As expected, it ran extremely rich. I pulled primary back the full 25% and managed to get it to stop going limp from running rich (At least it doesn't go limp when it is warm). I am still getting the occasional:

17537 - Fuel Trim: Bank 2 (Mult): System Too Rich
P1129 - 35-00 -

More concerning is that I am getting:

17548 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor: B2 S2: Internal Resistance too High.
P1140 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor: B1 S2: Internal Resistance too High.
P1114 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Is it possible that I killed my O2 sensors by running too rich?

Fuel economy is LOW.

I can't get the car to start in the morning without a CEL after bucking wildly. After the initial start and first 10 minutes of driving, it seems to be okay.

Advice would be very much appreciated. Do I need to go with a 90mm MAF?

Lemmi hints anyone?
Old 01-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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i believe rear 02 are just for emmission, shouldnt affect performance
Old 01-14-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Doubtful you toasted the S2s without toasting the S1s...

though it's hard to tell what's going on. Why did you choose such large injectors?
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The nice spray pattern, and they were available locally at a great price.
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I just figured out that Bosch makes 2.0 and 2.5 BAR FPR's for Saab, maybe they are worth a try!
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arnt those injectors too big for some strait ko4s? just a thought.
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Thats what I was thinking, Overkill, but They still wont put out more fuel that they are told to.
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Default Dood are you serious? Motos @ 3bar? Thats WAY to much fuel.

There is no foreseeable reason why you need moto, run Green Giants you are on regular K04s. Save yourself the headache!
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Car won't idle not enough fuel pressure STFA..
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They will not work with that maf. In fact you may never get that maf housing to work with AWE stgIII


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