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Stock FATS, M-box: 6.1 (plus lots of graphs!)

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Old 06-01-2005, 08:36 AM
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Default Stock FATS, M-box: 6.1 (plus lots of graphs!)

First, the basics:

2001.5, 6-Speed (M-Box)
100% stock
93 Octane
65F, high humidity
1000 feet
Just myself

Average of three runs in three different locations, seperated by a few minutes each: 6.06, 6.06, 6.05. Net: 6.06, or ~6.1.

When I first started capturing my FATS times a few weeks ago, I was surprised at the results considering what I'd read and <a href="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/dynoday_010805_wheel_hp.jpg" target="_blank">my recent dyno results</a>. I consulted with some wizened old veterans, re-logged the data multiple times, and re-ran the tests at several different locations. As long as the car was still breathing relatively cool air (and <a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/2011975.phtml" target="_blank">timing wasn't being pulled by the ECU</a>), I found myself getting very consistent results.

I'll let the pretty pictures do the talking:

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_fatscalc_1.jpg" border="0" alt="FATS Run #1">

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_fatscalc_2.jpg" border="0" alt="FATS Run #2">

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_fatscalc_3.jpg" border="0" alt="FATS Run #3">

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_mbar.jpg" border="0" alt="Boost in Absolute mBar">

Note that when I converted to PSI, I subtracted the reported vacuum at idle of 970 mBar:

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_psi.jpg" border="0" alt="Boost in calculated PSI">

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_maf.jpg" border="0" alt="MAF">

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/57452/pie4foo_053005_timing.jpg" border="0" alt="Timing">

Big thanks to Nye, Doc, and Darin for their email consultation, as well as Mark P for his <a href="http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/s4/ecux/fats/" target="_blank">idiot-proof FATS calculator</a>.

I'm encouraged by the results - now if only I could be convinced to mod the car! <ul><li><a href="http://www.wargamer.com/pie4foo/Pie4Foo_FATS_logs.zip">Download the raw log files and processed Excel spreadsheets</a></li></ul>
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Default Sure you don't have me confused with someone else? I don't remember helpying you via e-mail.

Nonetheless, you're welcome if I did indeed help and you have one crazy fast stock car. Mod it so you can break ever single stage FATS receord now!
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I'm sure it was you.
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Doh, you are right. Just checked my PEB e-mails. You're very welcome.
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Wow. 6.1 for a stock car?! You sure you were not on a grade of any sort?
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Default Yes. I collected FATS times from 8 different points over the course of 3 weeks.

These are just the final day's worth of logs.
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Default dang! that's fast! i gotta compare with Mark's calculator and Nye's. mine is at ~7.7s

but mine seems abnormally slow.

details on how you logged?

which blocks and with VAG?

looks like only 003 but you also have boost logged (i assume this is a seperate run to increase sample rate?)
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Default Yeah, I was really surprised when I first calculated the results. :o

So I went back an re-logged four more times. Unless my car is behaving oddly or my VAG-COM is accelerating my results, I'm pretty confident in the data.

Since I'm unchipped, I mostly logged 003 to preserve resolution. Boost was logged in a seperate run just to make sure I wasn't overboosting or running a mild chip (TAP, Neuspeed, etc.).

I think gas played a lot in my car's results, but beyond that, I'd be open to further research to figure it out.
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Nice lookin' timing!
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as it turns out, my runs were on what is probably 92 even though it was labeled 93. frickin VT


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